The Tuts make dubious allegations after Brixton Windmill gig

[Mrs Magpie]

Perkie has also written a report:

http://perkiethinks.tumblr.com/post/26718746113/recording-brief-explanation-of-what-happend-at-the

Seems pretty close to the incident. No mention of hair pulling or racism, which is odd as she did hear the landlord call her an arsehole and her tell him to fuck off.

Well, and witnesses report that Nadia threw the first punches.

 

[isvicthere?]

Who the fuck is Kate Nash anyway?

A one hit wonder from 2007.

 

[isvicthere?]

Can't be arsed reading 30 odd pages. I'm bored sitting ostracised in a bar in new zealand but not bored enough for 30 pages. Did these dick press charges? Or are they just dicks? They sound like fucking drama queens and tbh a boycott of the windy by their types ain't a prob. Dicks.

That's it in a nutshell.

 

[harpo]

Perkie has also written a report:

http://perkiethinks.tumblr.com/post/26718746113/recording-brief-explanation-of-what-happend-at-the

Seems pretty close to the incident. No mention of hair pulling or racism, which is odd as she did hear the landlord call her an arsehole and her tell him to fuck off.

Can't help laughing at this. Riot grrrrrl eh? I don't think so.

 

[RaverDrew]

http://perkiethinks.tumblr.com/post/26718746113/recording-brief-explanation-of-what-happend-at-the

The Tuts gig at The Windmill, Brixton where the Landord Seamus called Nadia an arse hole for no apparent reason...

I can think of at least one

and proceeded to attack her because she replied saying ‘fuck off’, which is obviously a reasonable response.

rea·son·a·ble​

adj.​

1. Capable of reasoning; rational: a reasonable person.​

2. Governed by or being in accordance with reason or sound thinking: a reasonable solution to the problem.​

3. Being within the bounds of common sense: arrive home at a reasonable hour.​

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we later found out it was because The Tuts brought their own alcohol to the gig, which is what bands do

Not according to the promoter that night...

There was no rider as I prefer to pay the bands decent money than spend it on cheap booze. If I was to provide a rider, I'd have less money to pay the bands. That's the way all of my shows at The Windmill have run previously with no issues.

Did she even ask anybody if it was okay first ?

seeing as they’re the ones bringing the people to the gig to then buy drinks from the bar.

<waves at simona>

 

[Citizen66]

Legally, if you repeat a libellous comment - and that includes retweeting - you are also liable for damages.

So that includes screen grabs of libelous statements posted on here?

 

[Badgers]

So that includes screen grabs of libelous statements posted on here?

Surely it depends on the context to a degree?

 

[Citizen66]

Surely it depends on the context to a degree?

It must. Would be ludicrous if seamus slapped a writ on here after most people have been fairly supportive.

 

[Callie]

I dont think that simply retweeting or sharing or reblogging something libellous someone else has said would get you into trouble, however if you then add your words to it then that could be libellous if you are supporting and agreeing with what you have repeated. I think. Who knows, Im probbaly gonna get done by Kate Nash now for saying she had made that fansite blog post (I have gone back and edited to try and clarify)

 

[Badgers]

It must. Would be ludicrous if seamus slapped a writ on here after most people have been fairly supportive.

Also sued his lawyer for printing them out

 

[MAD-T-REX]

You can repeat a defamatory statement to report on it in good faith, but it has to be clear that's what you're doing - a newspaper that reprinted a statement without any context and a reply from the injured party would be liable; the same presumably applies to people who retweet without comment.

 

[ViolentPanda]

But if we're wrong, and we might be, how cuntish does all this make us? There's examples everywhere of people shrugging off racism and the accuser being the one dragged through the mud.

What makes me lean away from the version of events given by The Tuts is that supposedly the racist remark was made in sight and earshot of the OB. Now colour me cynical, but I've never known the OB round here to pass up an easy weekday nick, and calling someone a Paki in front of a copper, while attempting an assault, seems like it would be one easy fucking nick.

 

[Citizen66]

But, but, but, Kate Nash just tweeted a link to the Tuts' statement, she didn't retweet the statement itself. It's like someone here slapping up a link to somewhere.

 

[harpo]

But, but, but, Kate Nash just tweeted a link to the Tuts' statement, she didn't retweet the statement itself. It's like someone here slapping up a link to somewhere.

I'm sure she added something...like..'Nadia gets assaulted'...

eta just checked, she did.

 

[ViolentPanda]

He has currently got me darning his socks and washing up at the same time

(((((wet socks)))))

 

[editor]

So that includes screen grabs of libelous statements posted on here?

By reposting it yourself, you could technically also become liable.

Anyone who repeats allegations can also be sued. This is important. Seeing something written somewhere else doesn't mean it is true. Repeating allegations without making sure they are true is a very good way to get yourself knee deep in litigation.

For example, say you wrote an email to the top 200 managers and governors of the BBC about Mr Dyke never paying his licence. That email is leaked to Magazine X who print it without making sure it is true.

Although the mail's already been sent and read by all, by repeating the allegation they too are committing the same libel. 'Repetition is no defence' say lawyers. Because it isn't.

http://www.urban75.org/info/libel.html

 

[spitfire]

Blimey. I've edited my post, hopefully that should cover it.

 

[ddraig]

Perkie has also written a report:

http://perkiethinks.tumblr.com/post/26718746113/recording-brief-explanation-of-what-happend-at-the

Seems pretty close to the incident. No mention of hair pulling or racism, which is odd as she did hear the landlord call her an arsehole and her tell him to fuck off.

whilst still a bit childish, that is a hundred times more balanced by the sound of it!

 

[Ol Nick]

Having read the last 3,234 posts it is pretty clear that this is just the kind of loutish behaviour one expects in SW2, and I do not understand why we are surprised by it.

Bring booze into SW9's "Academy" and you'll taken to the alley round the back to be knee-capped, and that, I have to say, safeguards Britain's standards.

 

[gabi]

I agree entirely. SW2 is the wild fucking west. They could learn a bit by coming down the hill.

 

[isvicthere?]

I agree entirely. SW2 is the wild fucking west. They could learn a bit by coming down the hill.

<feeling nostalgia for my "which is more 'brixton'. sw2 or sw9?" thread>

 

[ajdown]

I suppose at least the band have got themselves plenty of free publicity out of it.

Whether it's good for them or not remains to be seen.

 

[editor]

I suppose at least the band have got themselves plenty of free publicity out of it.

Whether it's good for them or not remains to be seen.

I don't think I'll be the only promoter who will be passing on them now.

 

[co-op]

I suppose at least the band have got themselves plenty of free publicity out of it.

Whether it's good for them or not remains to be seen.

That's some controversial stuff you've posted there aj.

 

[ajdown]

Sorry co-op, it's the best I can manage from here seeing as I wasn't actually at the show.

I mean, obviously, it would be wrong to form a judgment on a situation when you weren't there, then to post it all over Facebook, Twitter etc.

Oh wait...

 

[AverageJoe]

I just watched that video.

Even though I wasnt at the fairground, I hope that she doesnt think it too sexist of me to think that she is very pretty.

 

[GarfieldLeChat]

I don't think I'll be the only promoter who will be passing on them now.

well after such an esteemed promoter as your self passing up on them then that's their career over ...

(tbf they are still cunts)

 

[GarfieldLeChat]

Sorry co-op, it's the best I can manage from here seeing as I wasn't actually at the show.

I mean, obviously, it would be wrong to form a judgment on a situation when you weren't there, then to post it all over Facebook, Twitter etc.

Oh wait...

hijack a famous persons name to associate it with your mental ramblings...

have any of the cunts bothered to come back now they've been shown up as the billie bullshiters they are? bet they've not...

 

[spitfire]

tweet copy and paste fail.....

 

[spitfire]

Kate has retweeted the windmills link to their side of the story:

Kate Nash ‏@katenash
Other side of the story from @windmillbrixton

Windmill Brixton ‏@WindmillBrixton
@katenash Thanks for asking for our point of thingshttp://windmillbrixton.tumblr.com/