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The Tuts make dubious allegations after Brixton Windmill gig

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I don't buy for one minute that he would have been allowed to say something like that in front of a Police officer in such a situation and get away with it.

'Paki' is fairly common language outside of left wing circles though. Even more so outside of London. If you say it in my home town nobody would raise an eyebrow. Quite different in Brixton though, yes.
 
Citizen66 said:
But if we're wrong, and we might be, how cuntish does all this make us? There's examples everywhere of people shrugging off racism and the accuser being the one dragged through the mud.

Cuntish for wanting both sides of the story? Cuntish for being unsure how to take and being disappointed it happened?

We are pisstaking here (even with some serious stuff) but I struggle to have sympathy here. She likes a lairy night as long as it suits her, that much can't be denied.
 
But if we're wrong, and we might be, how cuntish does all this make us? There's examples everywhere of people shrugging off racism and the accuser being the one dragged through the mud.

No-one is shrugging off racism at all, the only person who would be shrugging it off is Nadia and co for not reporting it and instead choosing the cowardly option.
 
Cuntish for wanting both sides of the story? Cuntish for being unsure how to take and being disappointed it happened?

We are pisstaking here (even with some serious stuff) but I struggle to have sympathy here. She likes a lairy night as long as it suits her, that much can't be denied.
No-one is shrugging off racism at all, the only person who would be shrugging it off is Nadia and co for not reporting it and instead choosing the cowardly option.

Well yeah, I agree with those points too.
 
Police came into another Brixton pub following up a racist allegation last week. They never heard the racist statement but had both parties sat down in different parts of the pub, each with three coppers. They did not hear the racism but took witness statements and stayed for an hour. It was taken seriously regardless of both parties having been drinking...
 
Police came into another Brixton pub following up a racist allegation last week. They never heard the racist statement but had both parties sat down in different parts of the pub, each with three coppers. They did not hear the racism but took witness statements and stayed for an hour. It was taken seriously regardless of both parties having been drinking...

Yep, and I witnessed a similar incident recently as well. It's just utterly inconceivable that the cops would have just shrugged it off and covered it up. They take matters like this VERY serious round here, and for good reason too.
 
She likes a lairy night as long as it suits her, that much can't be denied.

Although so do lots of guys. Doesn't make bouncers any less wankerish for their responses though. It's like everyone is condemning her (me too) for her behaviour that could result in the venue being closed. Yet, all those times people have done some charlie or pills in venues, that must be different behaviour than smuggling booze in. I suppose in her case she was blatant about her indiscretions. Perhaps that is the difference.
 
But if we're wrong, and we might be, how cuntish does all this make us? There's examples everywhere of people shrugging off racism and the accuser being the one dragged through the mud.

Unfortunately racism does frequently get shrugged off.
I am guessing often due to the victim being too frightened, defeated or lacking the support and coping strategies to pursue an official complaint.
It does not seem to me that Nadia fits that description.
 
Unfortunately racism does frequently get shrugged off.
I am guessing often due to the victim being too frightened, defeated or lacking the support and coping strategies to pursue an official complaint.
It does not seem to me that Nadia fits that description.

I'm just trying to keep the thread going :D (off to bed in a min though!, work tomorrow/today :( )
 
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Although so do lots of guys. Doesn't make bouncers any less wankerish for their responses though. It's like everyone is condemning her (me too) for her behaviour that could result in the venue being closed. Yet, all those times people have done some charlie or pills in venues, that must be different behaviour than smuggling booze in. I suppose in her case she was blatant about her indiscretions. Perhaps that is the difference.

Yup, you are right. But when I got caught doing coke in a venue I said sorry and left. I also told people I was doing coke and got chucked out. I did not give a one sided 'rose tinted' version of bouncer evil doings.
 
Well I didn't know if your view of her misbehaving applied to men too (not a dig at you per se, but many men think women should behave more appropriately then they do was my point).

He has currently got me darning his socks and washing up at the same time :(
 
Yup, you are right. But when I got caught doing coke in a venue I said sorry and left. I also told people I was doing coke and got chucked out. I did not give a one sided 'rose tinted' version of bouncer evil doings.

Well yeah, can't argue with that. When I've been caught red handed with things I've always made a sharpish exit too. I mean, who wants the police to help argue it out when there's powder on the end of your nose? :D
 
Citizen66 said:
Well I didn't know if your view of her misbehaving applied to men too (not a dig at you per se, but many men think women should behave more appropriately then they do was my point).

Having worked in a lot of pubs I would say 90% of people chucked out are men. Also it is very hard (being a chap) to throw a woman out who really does not want to go.

I care not for what sex people are, or what colour/creed they are. If someone comes back and apologises the next day then it would have had to have been something awful to not forgive and forget. We all get silly on occasion, it is how you deal with it that matters.
 
'Paki' is fairly common language outside of left wing circles though. Even more so outside of London. If you say it in my home town nobody would raise an eyebrow. Quite different in Brixton though, yes.
sadly I've heard it in a pub round here (sw2) from more than one person on more than one ocassion and they felt completely justified in using when challenged :( Not the only racist things said either
 
sadly I've heard it in a pub round here (sw2) from more than one person on more than one ocassion and they felt completely justified in using when challenged :( Not the only racist things said either

ah, but to some people, they're not being racist. Paki is just short for Pakistani ;)
 
Just the fact that they seem quite young and the full force of the urban shitstorm is pretty intense. Not saying that what they are doing is right, but neither can we be 100% sure that their allegations (regarding racism) is false. And I'd hate to think they were disregarded just because the venue is great and people know the guy. It's like that whole thing with Londons_calling recently that I made a massive noise about. Everyone who knows him vouched that he isn't a racist. And he almost definitely isn't. But his comment is there in black and white for all to see. People say things they wouldn't normally say when they're angry.

i wouldn't be working there if there was an ounce of truth in there allegations, FACT
 
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