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The Tuts make dubious allegations after Brixton Windmill gig

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Citizen66 said:
With that in mind, I don't think she (or her publicist) has done anything wrong (legally speaking) by re-tweeting.

That fansite is full of libelous statements, however.

Legally, if you repeat a libellous comment - and that includes retweeting - you are also liable for damages.
 
the only thing I can conclude from this thread is that if a grumpy irishman who harboured racist feelings was to set up shop in fucking brixton, brixton then he must be some sort of masochist. Either that or the cold light of day encouraged billy bullshit to come out from his hole and speak for the tuts
 
Legally, if you repeat a libellous comment - and that includes retweeting - you are also liable for damages.

My people will talk to your people on Monday. ;)

I'm astounded at Kate Nash. We have a very good mutual friend who is mediating. Hope it blows over.

In the meantime, I'm fucking really upset about a lot of this. Much of it seems to be to get traffic to various sites (and yes, this one to) on a bogus race card.

Hey, we'll tweet about racism and that makes everything alright.

I really fucking despair sometimes.
 
I just popped over to their blog - evidence hunting - and I ended up feeling a bit sorry for them and a bit guilty about it all. I think the best possible outcome is for the Windmill to be able to carry on what they're doing and the Tuts to be able to as well; with a question mark hanging over both sides regarding future conduct which would exonerate the other party.
 
Nah, quite frankly fuck em.

They've played the racism and sexism card with no evidence whatsoever (and plenty to the contrary) to try and completely destroy reputations.

It really doesn't get any lower.
are you sure? give them a day or two to see whether they can't descend further.
 
What was it that made you feel sorry for them?

Just the fact that they seem quite young and the full force of the urban shitstorm is pretty intense. Not saying that what they are doing is right, but neither can we be 100% sure that their allegations (regarding racism) is false. And I'd hate to think they were disregarded just because the venue is great and people know the guy. It's like that whole thing with Londons_calling recently that I made a massive noise about. Everyone who knows him vouched that he isn't a racist. And he almost definitely isn't. But his comment is there in black and white for all to see. People say things they wouldn't normally say when they're angry.
 
I really don't think they realise or care that the damage has already been done, and that they're fucking with people's livelihood's.

Their little music scene will be the ones who suffer most if they're allowed to get away with such malicious, baseless accusations.

They don't know how lucky they are to have venues such as The Windmill to play at.
 
I really don't think they realise or care that the damage has already been done, and that they're fucking with people's livelihood's.

Their little music scene will be the ones who suffer most if they're allowed to get away with such malicious, baseless accusations.

They don't know how lucky they are to have venues such as The Windmill to play at.
i don't think they'll be playing at the windmill for some time to come. and i wouldn't be surprised if they found other venues welcoming them with less than open arms.
 
Just the fact that they seem quite young and the full force of the urban shitstorm is pretty intense. Not saying that that what they are doing is right, but neither can we be 100% sure that their allegations (regarding racism) is false. And I'd hate to think they were disregarded just because the venue is great and people know the guy. It's like that whole thing with Londons_calling recently that I made a massive noise about. Everyone who knows him vouched that he isn't a racist. And he almost definitely isn't. But his comment is there in black and white for all to see. People say things they wouldn't normally say when they're angry.

I think this is a very fair post.
I don't feel sorry for them as they should not be acting the way they have, even if the allegations were true.
But what you have said is fair.
 
Just the fact that they seem quite young and the full force of the urban shitstorm is pretty intense. Not saying that that what they are doing is right, but neither can we be 100% sure that their allegations (regarding racism) is false. And I'd hate to think they were disregarded just because the venue is great and people know the guy. It's like that whole thing with Londons_calling recently that I made a massive noise about. Everyone who knows him vouched that he isn't a racist. And he almost definitely isn't. But his comment is there in black and white for all to see. People say things they wouldn't normally say when they're angry.
True. Decent people apologise once they calm down too
 
Just the fact that they seem quite young and the full force of the urban shitstorm is pretty intense. Not saying that that what they are doing is right, but neither can we be 100% sure that their allegations (regarding racism) is false. And I'd hate to think they were disregarded just because the venue is great and people know the guy. It's like that whole thing with Londons_calling recently that I made a massive noise about. Everyone who knows him vouched that he isn't a racist. And he almost definitely isn't. But his comment is there in black and white for all to see. People say things they wouldn't normally say when they're angry.

What's good enough for me is that not a single person in a busy pub (outside of their circle jerk of groupies) heard Seamus say what they accuse him of.

I don't buy for one minute that he would have been allowed to say something like that in front of a Police officer in such a situation and get away with it.

The fact they've chosen not to pursue it through legal routes, and instead just go around libelling people speaks VOLUMES.
 
I really don't think they realise or care that the damage has already been done, and that they're fucking with people's livelihood's.

Their little music scene will be the ones who suffer most if they're allowed to get away with such malicious, baseless accusations.

They don't know how lucky they are to have venues such as The Windmill to play at.

But if we're wrong, and we might be, how cuntish does all this make us? There's examples everywhere of people shrugging off racism and the accuser being the one dragged through the mud.
 
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