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The Top 20 UK Techno records of the 1990s
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Spandex
A crazy bulbous punchbag of sound
Yeah, but particularly in the late 90s there were a lot of techno nights that were all looped banging techno, dodgy Jeff Mills rip offs all night long (mixed on 4 dex + FX, so the DJ can show off his 'skillz') and you'd look around the room at all these shaved headed blokes locked into the music and think 'fuck this' and go home.
Good sets have some variety in them - there's no shortage of varieties of techno, so there's no excuse for DJs not to mix it up a bit, which good ones do. I've got nothing against a bit of minimal loopage - if I heard Reverting or Automatic in a club now I'd go apeshit, as long as it was part of a decent set.
There's a tendancy in many kinds of dance music - D'n'B, dubstep, breaks and techno especially - for some producers & DJs to make it all dark and stripped down, which to my ears just takes the fun out of the music. And on those dancefloors it does tend towards blokes shuffling about nodding at how heavy the music is.
chico enrico
No hair shows you care.
quite right. as well as simply being shite there's really no 'bloodline' one can follow from that guff back to the 'origins' of techno.
HOWEVER! to return to my argument, great bloke tho he i and irrespective of how mmuch I like his music (a lot!) one could also say the same about, say surgeon (who is included in this list) as i'd say his 'sound' owes more to early 80s industrial acts (think certain rhymic parts in Eizunsterne Neubauten or early Test Dept or Cabs tracks looped with a kick drum) than the Bellvue three?
this is not a criticism , just an opinion.
but, if one were to agree with this hypothesis i don't really see how music of this ilk should be included and early warp type stuff not.
chico enrico
No hair shows you care.
but in this context, isn't that simply a reflection on just how distorted people's definition and expectation of 'real techno' (sic.) is?
I mean, to me, 'real techno' is the stuff on transmat, KMS, metroplex, incognito etc etc from say 1986 to 1990 - FFS! inner city "good life" was regarded as 'techno' when that came out - it was the 'techno track that had cracked the mainstream' and i don't think anyone on the planet could regard 'good life' as 'alienating'
Orang Utan
Psychick Worrier Ov Geyoor
we're not talking about american techno
chico enrico
No hair shows you care.
so, since when did 'UK techno' become a genre?
that would suggest that when people speak of UK techno there is a definable 'sound' they are referring to, like 'detroit techno'...or 'tartan techno'
as both of which are easily identifiable, where-as i'd have thought, if anything, the point of this list was to demonstrate the diversity of techno artists and producers from the UK.
that would suggest that when people speak of UK techno there is a definable 'sound' they are referring to, like 'detroit techno'...or 'tartan techno'
as both of which are easily identifiable, where-as i'd have thought, if anything, the point of this list was to demonstrate the diversity of techno artists and producers from the UK.
Orang Utan
Psychick Worrier Ov Geyoor
don't forget this was a personal list and was never intended to be comprehensivequite right. as well as simply being shite there's really no 'bloodline' one can follow from that guff back to the 'origins' of techno.
HOWEVER! to return to my argument, great bloke tho he i and irrespective of how mmuch I like his music (a lot!) one could also say the same about, say surgeon (who is included in this list) as i'd say his 'sound' owes more to early 80s industrial acts (think certain rhymic parts in Eizunsterne Neubauten or early Test Dept or Cabs tracks looped with a kick drum) than the Bellvue three?
this is not a criticism , just an opinion.
but, if one were to agree with this hypothesis i don't really see how music of this ilk should be included and early warp type stuff not.
Orang Utan
Psychick Worrier Ov Geyoor
it isn't a genre. no one said it was.so, since when did 'UK techno' become a genre?
that would suggest that when people speak of UK techno there is a definable 'sound' they are referring to, like 'detroit techno'...or 'tartan techno'
as both of which are easily identifiable, where-as i'd have thought, if anything, the point of this list was to demonstrate the diversity of techno artists and producers from the UK.
chico enrico
No hair shows you care.
Orang Utan
Psychick Worrier Ov Geyoor
uk techno
chico enrico
No hair shows you care.
Orang Utan
Psychick Worrier Ov Geyoor
doesn't make it a genre, in the same way, 'american techno' isn't either.
'uk techno' doesn't have a uniform, recognisable sound in the same way detroit techno has
chico enrico
No hair shows you care.
fair enough. get your point and i agree.
incidentally, i'd never thought about it before but it noone really ever refers to 'american techno' do they?
if you were to talk about techno from america folk would just immediately asume detroit stuff.
I suppose there was all that lennie dee/adam x type stuff but that was basically all a bit crap (apart from, 'we have arrived') - and obviously there's Joey Beltram from new york (and a few of the early Nu Groove releases were indisuptably 'techno'), but other than that i can't think of many US 'techno' producers of note
I'm the "dork" who wrote the article.
I've given my reasons for the list. It was never meant to be comprehensive, and as I have stipulated, is a personal list. There are lots of fantastic records and producers that don't make it, but that doesn't preclude their ability - it's just that you have to draw a line somewhere.
In hindsight, I'd have replaced the McLauchlan track with the Forgemasters Black Steel EP on Netwerk, but what is done is done.
You'd think I'd have created a list with divvy acid techno, underworld and the chemical brothers given some of the comments on this thread.
I've given my reasons for the list. It was never meant to be comprehensive, and as I have stipulated, is a personal list. There are lots of fantastic records and producers that don't make it, but that doesn't preclude their ability - it's just that you have to draw a line somewhere.
In hindsight, I'd have replaced the McLauchlan track with the Forgemasters Black Steel EP on Netwerk, but what is done is done.
You'd think I'd have created a list with divvy acid techno, underworld and the chemical brothers given some of the comments on this thread.
moody
Member of The Underground.
Don't forget technotronic.
Spandex
A crazy bulbous punchbag of sound
Dan Curtini can't think of many US 'techno' producers of note
From that centre of US techno, errr, Cleveland, Ohio...
Spandex
A crazy bulbous punchbag of sound
Nice one
Your list sums up my time in techno clubs in the 90s pretty well
I've had a fine old time getting all nostalgic on this thread
Orang Utan
Psychick Worrier Ov Geyoor
^ I got that
that's Holy Ghost Inc's Mad Monks On Zinc
Orang Utan
Psychick Worrier Ov Geyoor
Dan Curtin
From that centre of US techno, errr, Cleveland, Ohio...
Convextion from Dallas
Jay Denham from Kalamazoo
Beltram/Bones et al from NY
plenty of windy city producers
Spandex
A crazy bulbous punchbag of sound
I know this is getting away from UK techno (again), but I fucking love most of his stuff.
Miranda
bouncy techno ftw
Orang Utan
Psychick Worrier Ov Geyoor
if you're thinking of the Fred records on Missile, that was Cari Lekebusch from Sweden if my memory serves me right.
dlx1
Well-Known Member
I call it Fred since 92 as it had not meshoin sp of Missile / Cari LekebuschFred1 sabam on Orange label
http://www.discogs.com/Fred-Fred-1/release/38078 - Country:Belgium
ruffneck23
front left
^ I got that
I have 03: RELOAD A COLLECTION OF SHORT STORIES - wouldn't call it techno tho
a fine tune indeed
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