SpookyFrank
A cheap source of teeth for aquarium gravel
This is something I've often heard of wrt fascist stickers etc, never actually seen it in the wild though.
The stupidity of the anti-vaxx nutcases
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This is something I've often heard of wrt fascist stickers etc, never actually seen it in the wild though.
Johnny Vodka
The Abominable Scotsman
Good article from Monbiot today. I've been a bit disappointed with the number of lefty/alternative/psychedelic friends who buy into anti-vaxx bullshit and maybe beyond in some cases!
www.theguardian.com
It’s shocking to see so many leftwingers lured to the far right by conspiracy theories | George Monbiot
It’s not just anti-vaxxers. The themes of resisting power and regaining control of our lives have been cynically repurposed, says Guardian columnist George Monbiot
Monkeygrinder's Organ
Dodgy geezer swilling vapid lager
Good article from Monbiot today. I've been a bit disappointed with the number of lefty/alternative/psychedelic friends who buy into anti-vaxx bullshit and maybe beyond in some cases!
It’s shocking to see so many leftwingers lured to the far right by conspiracy theories | George Monbiot
It’s not just anti-vaxxers. The themes of resisting power and regaining control of our lives have been cynically repurposed, says Guardian columnist George Monbiot
To be honest I think it's more a case of people with a vague hippyish anti-authoritarianism having been considered left-wing than of left-wingers in general turning to anti-vax stuff. I've certainly known plenty of people whose politics didn't get much beyond their right to get wankered in a field who would consider themselves to be a bit lefty and I wouldn't be surprised to see any of them going anti-vax.
Fedayn
Well-Known Member
You have to laugh....
A right-wing anti-vaccine activist who previously suggested that Covid-19 was no worse than food poisoning has asked for prayers after contracting the viru
'Covid is a lie' was spray painted on the side of a house in my town.
It was there for ages. Has only just been painted over.
We've also had the odd bit of grafitti saying ' the vaccine will kill you!'
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rubbershoes
not the only raver in the village
Finally a cause that we can all get behind
Monkeygrinder's Organ
Dodgy geezer swilling vapid lager
Yeah, it's not that I disagree with getting wankered in fields. That's how I met them after all.
Bus Honeygun
This week the score draws are plentiful
Good article from Monbiot today. I've been a bit disappointed with the number of lefty/alternative/psychedelic friends who buy into anti-vaxx bullshit and maybe beyond in some cases!
It’s shocking to see so many leftwingers lured to the far right by conspiracy theories | George Monbiot
It’s not just anti-vaxxers. The themes of resisting power and regaining control of our lives have been cynically repurposed, says Guardian columnist George Monbiot
Yeah, he also captures that slide into anti-authoritarianism on the right. I saw a bloke a few months ago wearing a T-shirt with some slogan about questioning everything and mulled on the fact that 20 years ago I would have assumed him to be of some kind of leftist persuasion but now who knows...
Johnny Vodka
The Abominable Scotsman
I suppose there's the traditional right and the Trumpist kinda right.
scalyboy
They’re taking the piss now
My Choice… to risk infecting my relatives, friends and neighbours with Covid because I’m too fragile to wear a mask or get vaccinated.
Scum, basically
Nylock
I hate 'these days'...
With most ppl in the west vaccinated, this is now morphing into a pandemic of the unvaccinated . If a raft of these antivaxxer types now get rubbed out by C19 (especially the more vocal ones with a platform to spread their bullshit), I won't be shedding any tears for them ...
wemakeyousoundb
hopefully not gimboid
LeytonCatLady
Well-Known Member
Canadian police seek man who allegedly punched nurse for vaccinating his wife
A man confronted a female nurse at a pharmacy in Quebec for giving his wife a Covid-19 vaccine ‘without his authorization’
Poor nurse, and poor wife. She needs to get away from that controlling pig.
BigMoaner
What A Load of Old Bollocks
was listening to a Qanon expert the other day saying how the "question everything" as an attitude has clearly a long and important history in the field of science, politics, general rational discourse. of course it's one of the most important things that a human being can do.
he said however, in these types of communities, the "question everything" or "question authority" is taken almost to a pathological conclusion and manifests in things like is "Joe Biden real and not a robot?", deep states hidden, fake actors everywhere, white hats, etc. Thus taking it away from it's worthy roots into the Fruit and Nut Bar Realm. That instead of essential rational exploration of assumptions and the disputation of evidence, values inherent in any semi-intelligent person, it is really just paranoid and "i can see through the whole game of everythign, aren't i special" thinking.
"question everythign" is a bit of a red flag these days init, lol
LeytonCatLady
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Yes, and they're the type of extremists that make it easier to dismiss those with a valid reason to challenge something. They can fuck up a wet dream.
scalyboy
They’re taking the piss now
So weird. What do they think their illness is, given that (I guess) they are presenting with typical Covid symptoms and have tested positive for it...
Must be annoying for nurses and doctors having to care for people who could most likely have avoided being hospitalised if they'd been vaccinated.
Was reading this morning about a patient being refused chemotherapy because of a lack of staff or funds...
scalyboy
They’re taking the piss now
Was talking to a friend recently about 9/11, she's convinced it was an 'inside job' and said something like "anyone who can't see that the towers weren't demolished by explosives must be simple"
I replied with "I assume the intense heat of the exploding planes' fuel melted the towers' supporting girders" but added "neither of us are engineers or architects so we don't really know exactly what happened".
She wasn't having it, basically said "lots of (or all!) engineers have refuted the official version of events". She was filled with complete certainty, no room for discussion or debate, whereas I was saying "I don't know because I'm not an expert".
I guess when someone is filled with that level of certainty, their minds have to jump through hoops to maintain the internal logic of their belief, in the face of all evidence to the contrary.
Monkeygrinder's Organ
Dodgy geezer swilling vapid lager
The other side though of course is that there's still absolutely loads of things they take as read and don't question at all. Donald Trump's massive pile of lies for starters.
LDC
On est tous des pangolins
mojo pixy
...שלא נמצא בשמאל
I used to have a document that compared numbers of engineers who agree with the conspiracy narrative, with the number of members of engineering professional bodies. I researched and wrote it myself about 12 years ago. If I can find it I'll post it here but IIRC it was something like 0.3% of registered engineers in the US who had expressed support via the 911truth.org site. Minuscule numbers.Was talking to a friend recently about 9/11, she's convinced it was an 'inside job' and said something like "anyone who can't see that the towers weren't demolished by explosives must be simple"
I replied with "I assume the intense heat of the exploding planes' fuel melted the towers' supporting girders" but added "neither of us are engineers or architects so we don't really know exactly what happened".
She wasn't having it, basically said "lots of (or all!) engineers have refuted the official version of events". She was filled with complete certainty, no room for discussion or debate, whereas I was saying "I don't know because I'm not an expert".
scalyboy
They’re taking the piss now
0.3 per cent! Sounds about right
My friend's reaction is, I think, another variation on the 'we've had enough of experts' schtick. My suggestion that "since neither of us are engineers we can't really pronounce upon the subject" was met with short shrift, since she reckons she can make up her own mind / do her own research, and that her opinion is as valid as that of a member of the American Society of Mechanical Engineers.Er, no it isn't.
Similarly, most of us are quite happy to admit we have limited knowledge of epidemiology or virology so will follow expert opinion and guidance, but a sizeable minority think they can decide for themselves and have decided that (for example) masks are ineffective / Covid is "no worse than flu" / there's no such thing as Covid etc etc
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I’d sooner trust those trained in medicine and science than some crank with an internet connection and YouTube channel.
I caught Covid the other week and I’ve had worse colds. That’s deadly vaccines fighting a fake disease for ya.
I caught Covid the other week and I’ve had worse colds. That’s deadly vaccines fighting a fake disease for ya.
LeytonCatLady
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flypanam
Sausage to fortune
Some Anti Vaxxers including Dolores Cahill and some FOTL nutcases got a covid patient released from hospital in Donegal. The man returned to hospital and died
Sadness as Covid patient Joe McCarron passes away - Donegal Daily
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