catinthehat
Failed VK = Replicant
...and when the wolf really does come along everyone will think its jokes...
The Sandy Hook Owl and the New World Orderd
- Thread starter Jazzz
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existentialist
Tired and unemotional
There is no wolf.
Not a 200ft betentacled, seven-legged jewish alien MUTANT WOLF, anyway.
catinthehat
Failed VK = Replicant
Ah. Burger Wolves.
frogwoman
No amount of cajolery...
the pope is secretly a jew though if you believe some of these conspiracy nutters. tell that to the thousands of torquemada's victims and the victims of the criminals they helped save in world war 2 etc etc
existentialist
Tired and unemotional
Bildaberger wolves.
Barking_Mad
Non sibi sed omnibus
this is a little strange though...any lip readers?
elbows
Well-Known Member
Really? Its strange that life is a rollercoaster of emotions, or that peoples frame of mind can be all over the place? Or that the kind of person who would actually be prepared to give a tv interview under those circumstances might not conform to one simplified and cliche'd emotional state in the moments leading up to giving an emotional speech? Laughter often comes at inappropriate moments, real people can be a tad fake sometimes, and if you go and read what he said in his speech I really doubt some of it is what you or I might choose to say or feel at such a time. That doesnt make him a phoney in the manner the loons are suggesting, and me even having to say all of this is rather distasteful.
ajk
that's a shame
A bereaved father being forced to grieve in public may well act "a little strange". Not as strange as anonymous paranoids frantically collating as much spurious, asinine bullshit as they can find on the already nutwaffle saturated internet in a cretinous attempt to prove, I dunno, something? Ffs.
butchersapron
Bring back hanging
How did you act in front of the cameras when your child was murdered?
elbows
Well-Known Member
I mean for fucks sake, I enjoyed Wag The Dog, I thought it was a funny film that explored some serious issues in a comically absurd manner. To take it literally would be to entirely miss the point about the realities of propaganda and manipulation, and the loon attempts to make a follow-up out of real life is stupid beyond belief.
Barking_Mad
Non sibi sed omnibus
I dont know, that's why i asked the question because in my experience of people greiving, this doesnt quite fit. That's why i thought it strange. But if you say it's not necessarily so, then so be it.
Barking_Mad
Non sibi sed omnibus
I often find if i dont like a thread i leave it alone, rather than dragging the subject on by posting about how crap it is....which funnily enough is what always happens in Jazz threads
butchersapron
Bring back hanging
Diff strokes - i remember the day my best mate was killed, we all went to see Mudhoney that night - sure some people thought us having a drink and enjoying ourself was odd, callous even. Them thinking that didn't effect the reality of the grief i was going through though.
cesare
shady's dreams ♥
Particularly when the bereavement is a result of something extremely traumatic in itself. Sometimes the grief is tied into PTSD etc.
frogwoman
No amount of cajolery...
yeah one of the people in our street, his wife died a year or so ago and after her death he was always bizarrely cheerful and making jokes about coffins and stuff. very odd and "forced" but that doesnt mean that he was not genuinely bereaved, i think it devastated him but he showed it in a different way than most would.
bi0boy
Power User
Do you mean "it doesn't quite fit to my expectations" or do you mean "it doesn't quite fit to my expectations SO IT MUST BE THE JEW LIZARDS"? Because unless it's the latter I don't see how it belong son this thread really.
ajk
that's a shame
A few months ago I was interviewed on tv the day after a close friend of mine was murdered, and I was concentrating so hard on not falling to bits that I could have vomited, or burst out laughing, or jumped in the sea, or whatever. I've never watched the interview, apparently I came across ok, but I assure you that unless you've been through similar, you don't know how you will feel or react. And if you don't even know what your own reaction would be, it's a bit daft to infer anything from the behaviour of a complete stranger many miles away.
existentialist
Tired and unemotional
When I read the OP, I didn't immediately make the connection with the name "Sandy Hook" - I thought it was just Jazzz doing the usual pulling-flying-monkeys-out-of-his-arse routine. I've read most of the rest of the thread on my phone, so the full impact has dribbled in a bit slowly.Remember the owl in the dollar bill, the giant owl at Bohemian Grove (the place where our beloved rulers dress up in robes, worship owls and do weird stuff) and the owl in the Capitol Hill road layout? pictures
Well it seems a little curious that a student of Sandy Hook would present to Obama - a rather impressive picture of an OWL... featuring the letters NWO on an eyebrow
we did it guys!
I've just finished reading the thread, and gone back to the OP, and I am truly sickened - literally - by what he wrote there.
I guess we're all used to his patronising put-downs at people's unwillingness to accept his claims without question, and he can occasionally be rather strident and hectoring, but I am at a loss as to how anyone who isn't a complete sociopath can think that the kind of only-just-jokey triumphalism in the OP is appropriate in connection with an incident where, even if HE thinks the whole thing is fake, is regarded as a tragedy by 99% of the people hearing about it.
However horrible Jazzz might think a world controlled by the New World Order is, where cunningly complex but always so flawed he can see through them plots and plans are acted out to control us, he has truly become what he opposes: obscene, cynical, delusional, derisive of human life and suffering...and WRONG. I don't just mean factually wrong; I mean "wrong'un" wrong. I think he has plumbed new depths with this one. Bleurgh.
Yes, Jazzz, you certainly "did it" this time.
FridgeMagnet
Administrator
Oh, before it gets posted as being real: http://www.snopes.com/politics/conspiracy/martialsigns.asp
Couple of personal points. When my best mate's mum died suddenly towards the end of last year, I remember being with him, his girlfriend and his brother in his house the day after the funeral. It was very sad, he's only 24 and he's just had a kid of his own that'll never know it's grandmother, and we'd all had a lot to drink and so on. He's builder and very much Yorkshirey in that he doesn't express his emotions at all, and infact probably considers it a sign of weakness etc. Anyway we were there, and he started on this monologue to his brother:
"Listen I know you weren't there at the chapel of rest, but fucking hell if you could've seen mam there, lying so still, so perfect. Christ it was amazing. I felt like jumping onto the table and giving her one, right there and then. I'm sure if you'd have been there you'd have felt the same way. If I could've just got a couple of minutes alone with her, fuck me the things I've had done. I had to go home and have a wank straight after to get rid of the sexual tension."
And so on and so on, with the two brothers trying out-do each other in describing what awful sexual practices they'd get upto with their mother's dead body. And that's pretty weird, I grant you, but y'know what that's just how some people grieve. Some people are brought up not to display their emotions and so it comes out in other ways, horrible jokes being one of them. I mean we were all laughing our head's off, but when you think about it it's not that weird.
Another one, I remember being about 20 and having a really bad depressive episode. At a particularly low ebb, where I'd come off my anti-depressants really suddenly, I tried jumping off a bridge with an 80ft drop. Luckily I was so out of it I spent half an hour sat on the bridge's wall, feet dangling over the edge, smoking my last few cigarettes (I mean you're not gonna kill yourself when you've still got 3 fags left that'd be outrageous!) and two burly cops sneaked up behind me, grabbed me and pulled me down off the ledge. Apparently they'd been shouting me for 10 minutes before they snuck up on and I hadn't even responded. They'd tracked me down with a sniffer dog after I'd spent about 5 hours wandering the moors and thrashing my way around the bracken, which I was well impressed with. Anyway they took me home to my parents, I wasn't living there at the time but I presume they reasoned that it was the best place for me to be, and when I got in obviously my parents were in bits (I'll never forgive myself for putting my mam through all that) and whatever. Then after I'd sat down, this police starts admonishing me saying "Don't you realise you were right above a road? You might not have just killed yourself but what about some motorist hitting your corpse" and at the point he said "corpse" I just burst out laughing. He replied with "This isn't something to be laughing about y'know" and he's right, I was laughing coz a) I was really embarassed at how stupid and selfish I was and b) it's an instinct I must still carry from school to smirk and giggle when being shouted at by someone in authority. I didn't actually find it funny, I just don't think that copper realised that people, especially people who were in a similar state of mind to what I must've been in, laugh at weird things for weird reasons.
Anyway I'm all better now* and all cops are bastards (apart from the two who saved my life by sneaking up on me. Cheers!)
*Although butchers did call me a conspiraloon on another thread, and I swear phildwyers trying to get me to do something horrible on a webcam for his amusement that I've sorta put him upto. And my rampant theorising on the hidden intrigue of the SWP split hasn't gone down too well. Perhaps I am a little unbalanced?
spanglechick
High Empress of Dressing Up
blimey - i was going to point out that the first thing we did after my dad died was giggle inappropriately loudly in the lift from icu and open a bottle of champagne when we got to my mum's... but your story beats that into a cocked hat!
Random
Ethnic nalgocrat
Based on your posts you're more balanced than most politics Urbans.
You need to bear in mind that Dwyer tends to post with his tongue very firmly in his cheek if that's what he thinks will stimulate debate; for all he's subtle, it's just verbal chess to him.</derail>
mauvais
on reddit or something
It's one thing to egg him on but another to derive sexual pleasure from it
fogbat
The Talibum
I could have phrased that betterIt's one thing to egg him on but another to derive sexual pleasure from it
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