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I have read most of it actually. I was referring to the stuff about "my class composition is better than yours" stuff. Funny as fuck. :D
 
Errr...I find it funny. "my class composition pisses over yours" is funny. That people argue over that is funny.
 
catch said:
Louis Macneice, the only remaining poster who admits to be involved with the IWCA (someone correct me if I'm wrong) seems very reasonable though.


Has PC left here or left IWCA?
 
no- catch there are quite a few IWCA ers here. Sean, past caring, Louis MacNeice, Joe Reilly, haggy (ex?- now HI), cogg, er...more I think.
 
lletsa

you don't get it, do you? class war is not supposed to be like lefty trot shit such as social worker. it is supposed to be entertaining and thought-provoking, rather than some sludge the fuckwitted central committee wants you to read. if you were vaguely interested in anarchist politics fifteen years ago, i'd hope you'd have read - or glanced at - the two class war books, decade of disorder and unfinished business. i don't suppose you have cos you wouldn't perhaps be making yrself out to be such a braying ass had you.

why do you take social worker and its sordid ilk seriously? anyone with even a passing interest in anarchist and left-wing politics should notice quite quickly that where anarchists lead the fuckwit trots follow. i think one of the anarchist federation's luminaries describes it as the "leadership of ideas". certainly that describes it best. class war - for example - were involved in anti-fascism in the '80s and '90s when the swp didn't consider it a threat, before their papersales started getting turned over by the fash. class war members were active in anti-capitalism (vs g8, in the '80s stop the city demos &c) before the swp had realised they might be missing a good thing. every fucking thing the swp do is so fucking obviously a rip-off of what anarchists have done previously it's bizarre. if you want to know what the swp will be up to in 2007 or 2009 look at what anarchists are doing irl now.

returning to class war's politics, you could profitably read unfinished business - which, despite being published in 1992, is a good introduction to what we think. you might learn something from it.
 
Pickman's model said:
if you want to know what the swp will be up to in 2007 or 2009 look at what anarchists are doing irl now.

very true - if the swp arent doing some sort of shite parody of community politics i'll eat my cloth cap
 
rednblack said:
no, you've got your own :rolleyes: :p

No, they have a narrow and parochial view of class consciousness, and mine is as wide as it could possibly get... Hence it is not possible for me to have a narrow class consciousness... :eek: :D
 
Louis MacNeice said:
I'm not talking about the imposition of heirarchies; that's your imposition on my post.;) It is much simpler than that; what I'm refering to is the ability to make choices and the willingness to explain why you've made the choices you have, with an eye to getting people to join you in making similar decisions...like saying the best way to beat the poll tax was not to pay it and explaining why.


What you are describing here is compatable with the position i described earlier.
 
The voice of respectable moderation

Pickman's model said:
lletsa

you don't get it, do you? class war is not supposed to be like lefty trot shit such as social worker. it is supposed to be entertaining and thought-provoking, rather than some sludge the fuckwitted central committee wants you to read. if you were vaguely interested in anarchist politics fifteen years ago, i'd hope you'd have read - or glanced at - the two class war books, decade of disorder and unfinished business. i don't suppose you have cos you wouldn't perhaps be making yrself out to be such a braying ass had you.

why do you take social worker and its sordid ilk seriously? anyone with even a passing interest in anarchist and left-wing politics should notice quite quickly that where anarchists lead the fuckwit trots follow. i think one of the anarchist federation's luminaries describes it as the "leadership of ideas". certainly that describes it best. class war - for example - were involved in anti-fascism in the '80s and '90s when the swp didn't consider it a threat, before their papersales started getting turned over by the fash. class war members were active in anti-capitalism (vs g8, in the '80s stop the city demos &c) before the swp had realised they might be missing a good thing. every fucking thing the swp do is so fucking obviously a rip-off of what anarchists have done previously it's bizarre. if you want to know what the swp will be up to in 2007 or 2009 look at what anarchists are doing irl now.

returning to class war's politics, you could profitably read unfinished business - which, despite being published in 1992, is a good introduction to what we think. you might learn something from it.


Well done Pickmans Model, keep up the good work. :D
 
ernestolynch said:
Were my files useful, boss?
they always are!

i'm organising a ditch digging holiday in armagh cos of the information you've provided! :)

although the people going don't know it's a one-way trip for them! :D
 
Pickman's model "i think one of the anarchist federation's luminaries describes it as the "leadership of ideas". "
That would have been me. I'm pretty sure I coined the phrase and the thinking around it in the mid-70s
 
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