the most shameful moment in the labour party's history

[A380]

Starting the British nuclear weapons programme and so setting the world on a path to proliferation has got to be up there. Mostly forgotten now.

But:

We’re all right

Still makes me cringe inside....

 

[likesfish]

Iraq
India the Indian leadership pushed for partition not exactly how it could have been avoided considering the persons involved had been pushing for a Muslim homeland

 

[Leighsw2]

Reading the article, I was struck that the words were essentially put into his mouth by the Guardian:

Asked if the investigation was the most shameful moment in the party’s history, Jonathan Ashworth, the shadow health secretary, agreed that “it probably was, yes”. [my italics]

So this is basically more framing by the Guardian who have been utterly shameless in driving the AS 'crisis' in Labour as part of their never ending and obsessive hate campaign against Corbyn and his supporters. Naturally, it demonstrates a total lack of self-awareness bearing in mind their trying to face both ways on the invasion of Iraq, but that's centrists for you isn't it?

 

[brogdale]

Reading the article, I was struck that the words were essentially put into his mouth by the Guardian:


So this is basically more framing by the Guardian who have been utterly shameless in driving the AS 'crisis' in Labour as part of their never ending and obsessive hate campaign against Corbyn and his supporters. Naturally, it demonstrates a total lack of self-awareness bearing in mind their trying to face both ways on the invasion of Iraq, but that's centrists for you isn't it?

All true, but Ashworth remains a massive cunt.

 

[two sheds]

Reading the article, I was struck that the words were essentially put into his mouth by the Guardian:


So this is basically more framing by the Guardian who have been utterly shameless in driving the AS 'crisis' in Labour as part of their never ending and obsessive hate campaign against Corbyn and his supporters. Naturally, it demonstrates a total lack of self-awareness bearing in mind their trying to face both ways on the invasion of Iraq, but that's centrists for you isn't it?

Good point - means they've got a headline either way: "Ashworth denies this was the most shameful moment in the party’s history"

 

[19force8]

A few more to consider:

In no particular order.

The National Government.

Their utter devotion to the empire and all it stood for.

Constantly tightening immigration controls.

The deployment of Japanese PoWs to save the Dutch and French empires in Indonesia and Vietnam, likely leading to more death and destruction than the Iraq wars.

It's unfair to single out just one.

 

[butchersapron]

An ex-poster off here (sihhi) complied a 1300 page document - which should really be published in book form - of the labour govts actions 74-79. Each page outlines behaviour far far worse than this.

 

[Sasaferrato]

Reading the article, I was struck that the words were essentially put into his mouth by the Guardian:


So this is basically more framing by the Guardian who have been utterly shameless in driving the AS 'crisis' in Labour as part of their never ending and obsessive hate campaign against Corbyn and his supporters. Naturally, it demonstrates a total lack of self-awareness bearing in mind their trying to face both ways on the invasion of Iraq, but that's centrists for you isn't it?

Well, the Guardian gave room for Jones to push his relentless pro-Corbyn agenda.

 

[Pickman's model]

A few more to consider:

In no particular order.

The National Government.

Their utter devotion to the empire and all it stood for.

Constantly tightening immigration controls.

The deployment of Japanese PoWs to save the Dutch and French empires in Indonesia and Vietnam, likely leading to more death and destruction than the Iraq wars.

It's unfair to single out just one.

yeh but life's not fair

 

[skyscraper101]

Ed Miliband 'these strikes are wrong' - stuck on a loop.

 

[Sprocket.]

Ed Miliband 'these strikes are wrong' - stuck on a loop.

Which was made worse by the fact that it was only the support from the trade unions that helped him defeat his brother in the leadership contest.

 

[Serge Forward]

Heh heh... I'm leading off a public meeting next week on the Labour Party... so some good 'material' I can use here. It's mostly stuff I knew already, but... er... forgot

Has anyone mentioned the newly elected Attlee government using troops to break the dock strike? Then there was the In Place of Strife document that influenced all the later ballot bollocks for industrial action, Labour collusion on Tebbit's Employment Bill (the basis of the anti-union laws) under the early Thatcher government and their maintaining such anti-worker laws when in government, which also reminds me of Labour being the class enemy during the 'winter of discontent', oh, and Blair government's moves towards privatising the NHS PFI-ing it to fuck... and round and round it goes...

 

[belboid]

Ed Miliband 'these strikes are wrong' - stuck on a loop.

and, of course, it was under Miliband that the jewish labour vote collapsed (including Maureen Lipmann leaving for the first time), when he damned Israeli war crimes in Gaza., the bastard. Of course the right, and their useful idiots, couldn't really claim that that was anti-semitism.

 

[skyscraper101]

Don't forget expensesgate. With Jaqui Smith's husband claiming on 'adult themed' pay per view channels, and a bath plug costing 89p among the patio heater and flatscreen TV etc.

Though tbf, neither the Tories nor Labour came out of that one looking holier than thou. IIRC it was Corbyn who came out the saintliest of them all.

 

[stethoscope]

Whilst overshadowed by many shameful things already mentioned on this thread, also worth noting that Labour officially abstained on the third reading of the CJB allowing it to pass.

 

[Flavour]

Have you lot all forgotten the labour party once elected Jeremy "red jez" corbyn as leader?!

 

[Dandred]

Blair going to war was more shameful.

 

[likesfish]

Getting rid of Saddam fine.
Losing interest and cutting troops when the actual hard work needed doing that contributed the body count and the rise of IS.
Their wasnt a potental pm who wouldn't have followed the US

 

[JTG]

There's loads of this stuff here btw

http://whydopeoplehatenewlabour.com/

 

[Thaw]

I was reading a review of 'The Last Million' about the treatment of refugees after WW2 and there was some mention of how the Labour govt gave priority to the nice clean Balts (inc. ex -SS) in preference to Jews.

"The government distinguished each group of DPs - Balts were highly desirable, Ukrainians much less so, and European Jews were not eligible. Latvian women in particular belonged to a category of ‘sound stock’ - a ‘good and desirable element’ whose marriage to British men could be welcomed as reproduction would ensure the maintenance of a healthy white British ‘line’. "

Some nice quotes from the Daily Mirror and New Stateman here:

https://www.nottingham.ac.uk/postwar-refugees/documents/briefing-paper-6-coming-to-britain.pdf

 

[Jay Park]

Which was made worse by the fact that it was only the support from the trade unions that helped him defeat his brother in the leadership contest.

with the idea of puppeteering in mind

 

[Jay Park]

A few more to consider:

In no particular order.

The National Government.

Their utter devotion to the empire and all it stood for.

Constantly tightening immigration controls.

The deployment of Japanese PoWs to save the Dutch and French empires in Indonesia and Vietnam, likely leading to more death and destruction than the Iraq wars.

It's unfair to single out just one.

sailed the Dutch back there in 46

 

[Wilf]

Adopting neoliberalism, Iraq War and abandoning the miners are the big ones, but I'd give a dishonourable mention to the Morrisonian model they used for nationalisation. Ensuring that one of the things they did right, they did in a very bad way.

 

[ska invita]

For the shortlist: privatising education

 

[Pickman's model]

For the shortlist list: privatising education

The shortlist will end up being published in 13 volumes

 

[krink]

The ones that instantly spring to mind are Iraq, the miners, privatising schools, expanding pfi in the nhs, the general strike. I don't know a lot about them to be fair compared to some of you. I would love to see that list butchers mentioned.

 

[hitmouse]

Has no-one mentioned Arthur Henderson joining Asquith's and Lloyd George's coalition governments in WWI yet? More recently, Labour abstention on the workfare bill 2013, Labour abstention on the Welfare Reform bill 2015, Labour abstention on the spycops and war crimes bills 2020, anything to do with social housing in London over the last however long, threatening Birmingham bin workers with the anti-union/anti-strike laws. Oh, and introducing the Work Capability Assessment and giving Atos that contract back in 2008, that was a classic.

 

[hitmouse]

An ex-poster off here (sihhi) complied a 1300 page document - which should really be published in book form - of the labour govts actions 74-79. Each page outlines behaviour far far worse than this.

I'm still finding my way around this software, for a moment there I genuinely looked at the link saying "report" at the bottom of this post and thought "oh, that must be a link to the report mentioned, thanks for providing that".

 

[William of Walworth]

the most shameful moment in the labour party's history

Loads of options (poll?)

But I'm going with Partition of India and War in Iraq

Former the worst, but latter an absolute disgrace too

 

[William of Walworth]

The ones that instantly spring to mind are Iraq, the miners, privatising schools, expanding pfi in the nhs, the general strike. I don't know a lot about them to be fair compared to some of you. I would love to see that list butchers mentioned.

With the miners, I think that post-defeat , the Blair Government bears a lot more responsibility for the state of ex-mining villages/areas than they did in opposition in 1984 -- Thatcher is my one word reason for saying that.