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the long-awaited 'why the telegraph is going downhill' thread

Make the most of living in Conservative Britain: Armageddon is upon us. In a little over a week, the Tory government – that last, oh-so-imperfect, infuriatingly porous roadblock to Left-wing hegemony – will have been obliterated. The removal vans, symbols of regime change, will be on their way. Parliament, the last major institution in Britain still nominally controlled by the centre-Right, will have fallen, in a wipeout without precedent.

Sir Keir Starmer will be prime minister with a crushing majority. Even in the best-case scenario for the Conservatives, never before in British history will there have been so many MPs – mostly Labour, but also Lib Dem, Plaid Cymru, Green and the diminished SNP – dedicated to one or other form of socialism or social-democracy, and so few – Tory, Reform and DUP – interested in free markets, liberty, cultural conservatism, self-government or other strands of centre-Right thinking.

To add insult to injury, not every residual Tory MP will even fall into the latter category: plenty will be uber-wet, with little in common with the Conservative electorate of 2024. Nigel Farage’s likely election won’t make up for this calamity.

The comprehensive nature and historic scale of this apocalypse for the British centre-Right has yet to sink in. Even after the catastrophe of 1906, when the Tories collapsed to 156 seats (yes, those were the days), the victors were the old Liberals, who were far less statist than today’s Conservatives. Labour, led by another Keir, grabbed just 29 seats. The overwhelmingly Tory House of Lords, then imbued with real power, was neutered by the Parliament Act of 1911, but Starmer will go one further: he will stuff the Lords with an army of Labour peers.

Above and beyond what will be the most hostile parliamentary arithmetic of the democratic era, there is another reason why the election of 2024 will amount to the worst ever defeat for the forces of conservatism. The Left’s unprecedented control over Parliament will be matched by its unparalleled grip over virtually every other powerful institution: the universities, cultural bodies, charities, the BBC and most of the broadcast media, the quangos, the economic and financial regulators, the Church, the police and now even big business and woke capital.

Having long since captured the public sector, the Left’s Long Marchers turned their attention to the private sector, starting with HR departments. More so even than under Tony Blair, Labour will be able to count on the enthusiastic support of a mass of fellow travellers. The Tories, for all their faults, did sometimes restrain the Blob, and occasionally, such as on Brexit and aspects of gender ideology, actually defeated it. Under Labour, all parts of the establishment will share the same values and work towards the same goals, probably for the first time since the 1950s (though elite beliefs were very different in those days).

Starmer will be the most powerful prime minister of modern times, at least until events begin to derail him: the master of all he surveys in Parliament, and ideologically aligned to the courts, the Blob and to woke capital, he will possess a near-monopoly on political and cultural power that Thatcher and Blair couldn’t have dreamt of.

It is no surprise, therefore, that many on the Left are feeling over-excited: this may finally be their moment. David Tennant, the Dr Who actor, said he wished Kemi Badenoch didn’t “exist any more” and that she should “ shut up” because of her support for women’s rights. Tennant’s comments sum up the modern Left: hypocritical, intolerant of difference, extreme in support of their pet causes, and ecstatic at the prospect of total victory.

For the activists who have worked so hard to get Labour elected, and for many of his new MPs, Starmer’s landslide will be seen as vindication of their ideas, the electorate’s final repudiation of conservatism and centre-Right values, and the green light for revolutionary change. They will downplay the real reason for Labour’s triumph, namely Middle England’s disgust at Tory broken promises and incompetence, and the debilitating split in the centre-Right vote.

Yet the Left-wing base’s apparent hubris comes from a realisation that it has a unique yet fleeting opportunity to remould Britain: Starmer’s honeymoon won’t last forever. He will never be as dominant as over the next few months: it will be the moment to cash in political capital and find a pretext to tear up the manifesto.

Left-wing economists have spent years calling for wealth taxes, higher levies on capital gains, restrictions on Isas, and reforms to council tax that would hammer anybody living in an expensive home: this would be one way of financing a large spending increase. The Rejoiners will proclaim that the electorate is finally sick of Brexit.

Others will argue that Labour should be explicitly pro-immigration, and stop pretending to care about stopping the boats. Woke activists are pushing critical race theory and decolonisation, wanting to go further even than Labour’s plans to impose yet more divisive red tape on business. Others want to reinject egalitarian and woke nostrums into the curriculum. The Israelophobes are desperate for Labour to turn its back on the Jewish state.

There are signs that Starmer understands the dangers of a drastic Left-wards tilt. He appears to realise that the public dislikes the Tories but doesn’t love Labour, and certainly not hard-Left ideas. He has made a nuanced case for the lack of dignity conferred by benefits. Wes Streeting sees the dangers of woke over-reach when it comes to female voters. But Parliament will become a giant, almost uniformly Left-wing echo chamber, emboldening the madder voices, and Starmer himself is a real man of the Left.

So who, in this brave new world, will speak up for conservative Britain? We must hope that Badenoch, as well as Suella Braverman, Robert Jenrick, Priti Patel and other strong figures are re-elected. Farage will be a pain in Starmer’s backside on immigration and the EU. Much of the opposition to hard-Left overreach will come from the moderate Left, not least J K Rowling, who has already called out Starmer over trans extremism. The centre-Right desperately needs its own extra-parliamentary voices.

Yet there can be no denying that the future looks desperately miserable for conservative voters. The past few years were just a dry run: the real nightmare is about to begin.
 
An accurate summary:

*Those of us who are genuine Conservatives have never really lived under a proper Conservative government but at least it's full of Conservatives unlike the BBC, the Church, all the courts, and the bloke who lives in my attic, They're all socialists, and now woke socialism is going to infect my bloodstream, and take over the BBC, which is already Left, and the Church, ditto, and secretly we hate democracy don't we, voting is for woke Left trans-shaggers and how many words? 750? Before lunch? Christ.
 
Just on the Kemi Badenoch thing seems like the vermin forgot it was fine when Frank Hester wanted to kill all black women as Diane Abbott annoyed him
 
Make the most of living in Conservative Britain: Armageddon is upon us. In a little over a week, the Tory government – that last, oh-so-imperfect, infuriatingly porous roadblock to Left-wing hegemony – will have been obliterated. The removal vans, symbols of regime change, will be on their way. Parliament, the last major institution in Britain still nominally controlled by the centre-Right, will have fallen, in a wipeout without precedent.

Sir Keir Starmer will be prime minister with a crushing majority. Even in the best-case scenario for the Conservatives, never before in British history will there have been so many MPs – mostly Labour, but also Lib Dem, Plaid Cymru, Green and the diminished SNP – dedicated to one or other form of socialism or social-democracy, and so few – Tory, Reform and DUP – interested in free markets, liberty, cultural conservatism, self-government or other strands of centre-Right thinking.

To add insult to injury, not every residual Tory MP will even fall into the latter category: plenty will be uber-wet, with little in common with the Conservative electorate of 2024. Nigel Farage’s likely election won’t make up for this calamity.

The comprehensive nature and historic scale of this apocalypse for the British centre-Right has yet to sink in. Even after the catastrophe of 1906, when the Tories collapsed to 156 seats (yes, those were the days), the victors were the old Liberals, who were far less statist than today’s Conservatives. Labour, led by another Keir, grabbed just 29 seats. The overwhelmingly Tory House of Lords, then imbued with real power, was neutered by the Parliament Act of 1911, but Starmer will go one further: he will stuff the Lords with an army of Labour peers.

Above and beyond what will be the most hostile parliamentary arithmetic of the democratic era, there is another reason why the election of 2024 will amount to the worst ever defeat for the forces of conservatism. The Left’s unprecedented control over Parliament will be matched by its unparalleled grip over virtually every other powerful institution: the universities, cultural bodies, charities, the BBC and most of the broadcast media, the quangos, the economic and financial regulators, the Church, the police and now even big business and woke capital.

Having long since captured the public sector, the Left’s Long Marchers turned their attention to the private sector, starting with HR departments. More so even than under Tony Blair, Labour will be able to count on the enthusiastic support of a mass of fellow travellers. The Tories, for all their faults, did sometimes restrain the Blob, and occasionally, such as on Brexit and aspects of gender ideology, actually defeated it. Under Labour, all parts of the establishment will share the same values and work towards the same goals, probably for the first time since the 1950s (though elite beliefs were very different in those days).

Starmer will be the most powerful prime minister of modern times, at least until events begin to derail him: the master of all he surveys in Parliament, and ideologically aligned to the courts, the Blob and to woke capital, he will possess a near-monopoly on political and cultural power that Thatcher and Blair couldn’t have dreamt of.

It is no surprise, therefore, that many on the Left are feeling over-excited: this may finally be their moment. David Tennant, the Dr Who actor, said he wished Kemi Badenoch didn’t “exist any more” and that she should “ shut up” because of her support for women’s rights. Tennant’s comments sum up the modern Left: hypocritical, intolerant of difference, extreme in support of their pet causes, and ecstatic at the prospect of total victory.

For the activists who have worked so hard to get Labour elected, and for many of his new MPs, Starmer’s landslide will be seen as vindication of their ideas, the electorate’s final repudiation of conservatism and centre-Right values, and the green light for revolutionary change. They will downplay the real reason for Labour’s triumph, namely Middle England’s disgust at Tory broken promises and incompetence, and the debilitating split in the centre-Right vote.

Yet the Left-wing base’s apparent hubris comes from a realisation that it has a unique yet fleeting opportunity to remould Britain: Starmer’s honeymoon won’t last forever. He will never be as dominant as over the next few months: it will be the moment to cash in political capital and find a pretext to tear up the manifesto.

Left-wing economists have spent years calling for wealth taxes, higher levies on capital gains, restrictions on Isas, and reforms to council tax that would hammer anybody living in an expensive home: this would be one way of financing a large spending increase. The Rejoiners will proclaim that the electorate is finally sick of Brexit.

Others will argue that Labour should be explicitly pro-immigration, and stop pretending to care about stopping the boats. Woke activists are pushing critical race theory and decolonisation, wanting to go further even than Labour’s plans to impose yet more divisive red tape on business. Others want to reinject egalitarian and woke nostrums into the curriculum. The Israelophobes are desperate for Labour to turn its back on the Jewish state.

There are signs that Starmer understands the dangers of a drastic Left-wards tilt. He appears to realise that the public dislikes the Tories but doesn’t love Labour, and certainly not hard-Left ideas. He has made a nuanced case for the lack of dignity conferred by benefits. Wes Streeting sees the dangers of woke over-reach when it comes to female voters. But Parliament will become a giant, almost uniformly Left-wing echo chamber, emboldening the madder voices, and Starmer himself is a real man of the Left.

So who, in this brave new world, will speak up for conservative Britain? We must hope that Badenoch, as well as Suella Braverman, Robert Jenrick, Priti Patel and other strong figures are re-elected. Farage will be a pain in Starmer’s backside on immigration and the EU. Much of the opposition to hard-Left overreach will come from the moderate Left, not least J K Rowling, who has already called out Starmer over trans extremism. The centre-Right desperately needs its own extra-parliamentary voices.

Yet there can be no denying that the future looks desperately miserable for conservative voters. The past few years were just a dry run: the real nightmare is about to begin.
rousing stuff...almost makes you want to vote labour
 
I know I shouldn’t further line the pockets of the Torygraph’s cunt owners, but has been a guilty pleasure of mine for the last few years, because the online edition at least has become the home of full-on deranged hard right loons that sometimes makes even the Mail look moderate by comparison. And also pushing a few issues everyone else long ceased to give any thought.

I’ve lost count of the number of opinion pieces moaning about the apparent incalculable damage the Pandemic lockdowns have caused to everyone in the country. Almost weekly for the last two years. And if I got a Pound for every article predicting the imminent collapse of the EU I’ve seen since I started checking their website, I would certainly be able to treat my OH to a nice three-course meal at the Ivy.

Far more revolting is the regular appearance of opinion pieces stinking of Islamophobic. fanatical support of the Israeli government and army no matter how barbaric the events at hand. Farage and even Trump also get regular cheerleading articles. And WWIII has started about five times already.
 
I know I shouldn’t further line the pockets of the Torygraph’s cunt owners, but has been a guilty pleasure of mine for the last few years, because the online edition at least has become the home of full-on deranged hard right loons that sometimes makes even the Mail look moderate by comparison. And also pushing a few issues everyone else long ceased to give any thought.

I’ve lost count of the number of opinion pieces moaning about the apparent incalculable damage the Pandemic lockdowns have caused to everyone in the country. Almost weekly for the last two years. And if I got a Pound for every article predicting the imminent collapse of the EU I’ve seen since I started checking their website, I would certainly be able to treat my OH to a nice three-course meal at the Ivy.

Far more revolting is the regular appearance of opinion pieces stinking of Islamophobic. fanatical support of the Israeli government and army no matter how barbaric the events at hand. Farage and even Trump also get regular cheerleading articles. And WWIII has started about five times already.
Completely with you. I check the opinion page daily to see how far they've gone this time. Britain is on the edge, Britain is near the edge, Britain has fallen off the edge, Britain didn't have an edge to begin with; glorious hysteria.

Needless to say the women are the most unhinged. When you've got Zoe Strimpel and Alison Pearson both chasing the same pack you can't expect measured and balanced.
 
Completely with you. I check the opinion page daily to see how far they've gone this time. Britain is on the edge, Britain is near the edge, Britain has fallen off the edge, Britain didn't have an edge to begin with; glorious hysteria.

Needless to say the women are the most unhinged. When you've got Zoe Strimpel and Alison Pearson both chasing the same pack you can't expect measured and balanced.
BIB - Why "needless to say"? :confused:
 
I guess because they feel the need to overcompensate and show that they're not one of those awful woke liberal feminists types. Step on me, Daddy Nigel! (Or Daddy Bibi in Strimpel's case. Christ, I hate sharing a faith with her.)
 
I know I shouldn’t further line the pockets of the Torygraph’s cunt owners,
I think technically the Telegraph is now owned by Lloyds Bank, after the Barclays' company that owned it went into receivership last year. The outgoing government and their peers were getting their assorted knickers in a right twist over the proposed buyers being the UAE state.

Those same knickers, and those in the then outgoing Labour government, were perfectly neat when the Independent was sold to someone with KGB links.
 
Bonus article this evening, I see. Another doomsday warning :thumbs:


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It has reminded me a Spitting Image episode in the run up to the 1997 GE that had a sketch featuring a Tory Cabinet meeting disintegrating into infighting and dejection, and showing an electoral poster pinned on the wall that read ‘LABOUR WILL SLEEP WITH YOUR WIVES’ :)
 
Bonus article this evening, I see. Another doomsday warning :thumbs:


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It has reminded me a Spitting Image episode in the run up to the 1997 GE that had a sketch featuring a Tory Cabinet meeting disintegrating into infighting and dejection, and showing an electoral poster pinned on the wall that read ‘LABOUR WILL SLEEP WITH YOUR WIVES’ :)
That really looks like it was created by the Daily Mail headline generator.
 
That's just Allister Heath, who'd be rejected as a character proposed for any satire, such is his lack of sanity.
 
For once this is not another batshit opinion piece to add to the pile- quite the contrary, in fact

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:eek::eek:
 
Alas, normal service (not a batshit opinion this time, but pisspoor proofreading) is promptly resumed immediately below...

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£1, you say? Does that include shipping? I might take a few of those off their hands :)
 
Screencap of the headline on Truss' article


Liz Truss in hilarious form yesterday:

Tory governments failed to roll back Blair's Leftist agenda – that's why we lost - Telegraph (archived)
But, in truth, the seeds of this defeat go right back to 1997 and the way that the Conservative Party responded to the New Labour project, both in opposition and in government. Rather than taking on the Leftist agenda, far too often it was bought into – and the election result was our punishment for having done so.

Some hacks have pointed to the fact that she's giving advice to the Tory party on how to win elections having just lost her own previously safe Tory seat. And one professional pollster has unkindly pointed out that she didn't merely lose that safe seat - she did so on the biggest swing from Tory to Labour ever seen in one constituency. Other people are just taking the piss.

Rebecca @becca2uk
Ah, you see, she lost her seat because the electorate secretly wanted More Liz Truss, but they were expressing this in the sneakiest way imaginable.
10:00 PM · Jul 13, 2024

Risible as Truss' argument might appear I imagine it will continue to have a minority appeal in small sections of the right. After all sections of the far and ultra left spent much of the 14 years of coalition and Tory governments making exactly the same argument about Blair - that he 'failed to roll back Thatcher's agenda'. And at least some of them have learned a lesson from that. This time instead of waiting a while they started denouncing Labour for adhering to neoliberalism ("bad capitalism"), as opposed to social democracy ("good capitalism"), even before it won the election.
 
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Cartoon today commenting on the government's plan to renationalise the railways.
Extra marks for the lovely Soviet red stars painted on the side of the cars :thumbs:

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They've got some adverts on those large electronic billboards around London proudly proclaiming how they'll hold Labour to account over a picture of Starmer and Reeves looking sinister. All seemed a bit hysterical. And accidentally points out how little they held the Tories to account.
 
I haven't taken any screenshots, but in the two or three times I've checked their website since Biden announced he was withdrawing, I've already clocked at least two negative main headlines as well as a couple of opinion pieces about Kamala Harris. Clearly editorial staff are orders to diss her from the off. Can't think why... :rolleyes:
 
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