the long-awaited 'why the telegraph is going downhill' thread

[MAD-T-REX]

Two absolute stinkers from the Telegraph:

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/rel...c-law-is-adopted-by-British-legal-chiefs.html

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/health/h...-babies-incinerated-to-heat-UK-hospitals.html

Must meet the manufactured outrage quota, etc.

 

[stavros]

This isn't directly related to the Telegraph's output, but those lovely Barclay brothers have won £1.2billion back from HMRC.

If the UK launched a full military assault on their little Channel hideaway, would we contravene any international regulations?

 

[ViolentPanda]

This isn't directly related to the Telegraph's output, but those lovely Barclay brothers have won £1.2billion back from HMRC.

If the UK launched a full military assault on their little Channel hideaway, would we contravene any international regulations?

HMRC won the previous Littlewoods-related case at appeal, and are planning to take this one to appeal (where it'll possibly be helped by the precedent set by the outcome of the first case).

 

[stavros]

According to the current Eye, Frederick Barclay has defected from the Tories to Ukip, and helped pay for Farage's back surgery.

 

[gosub]

over half the articles I click on have embedded video that automatically starts playing. Last article had 2 on the same page. Its your own bandwidth you're wasting.

 

[farmerbarleymow]

over half the articles I click on have embedded video that automatically starts playing. Last article had 2 on the same page. Its your own bandwidth you're wasting.

I try and avoid that site because of this. It infuriates me when websites do that.

 

[stavros]

It's how they attempt to scrape breaking even for their online operations. I know the Graun and the Indie are both haemorraging money, and I heard that the Telegraph has lost readership recently.

I watched last week's Question Time earlier, and it had a particularly odious cunt called Tim Stanley on the panel, who apparently writes columns for this wonderful tome. He seemed to think large solar spheres shone out of the derrières of Messers Gove and Farage.

 

[Quartz]

Mass sackings happening, per Guido, including Brogan. The Huffington Post has more.

 

[stavros]

I went to visit my Telegraph-reading parents this weekend, and indulged at a quick glance at yesterday's editorial. In it, they seemed to eulogise that the government spunking a shitload of money on an aircraft carrier and naming it after the Queen was something to elicit great pride among the people of this nation.

 

[Pickman's model]

I went to visit my Telegraph-reading parents this weekend, and indulged at a quick glance at yesterday's editorial. In it, they seemed to eulogise that the government spunking a shitload of money on an aircraft carrier and naming it after the Queen was something to elicit great pride among the people of this nation.

waste of good whisky.

 

[stavros]

Although I've never used them before, Yodel have been added to my boycotts list as I found out they're owned by the Barclays.

 

[Quartz]

Although I've never used them before, Yodel have been added to my boycotts list

They're not very good anyway and best avoided, IME. Round here the best is DPD.

 

[stavros]

I've heard they're shite too, although I wouldn't really want to use Royal Mail either these days, now they're in the hands of hedge funds.

 

[Quartz]

I've heard they're shite too, although I wouldn't really want to use Royal Mail either these days, now they're in the hands of hedge funds.

Up here they'll be re-nationalised after independence. Allegedly.

 

[nino_savatte]

Hannan hates human rights, especially if there's a European dimension to them.

Either we’re in or we’re out. There is no way of signing up to the European Convention on Human Rights without accepting the ultimate jurisdiction of its court in Strasbourg. The various compromises being kicked around in the Conservative Party – scrapping the Human Rights Act, removing direct justiciability and so on – would all leave Britain ultimately subject to the whim of the manqué politicians and human rights activists (plus a handful of proper judges) who comprise the European Court of Human Rights.

So let’s ask the question. What specific benefits accrue to the United Kingdom as the result of our adherence to the Convention? It ought to be the most basic question of all, yet it is almost never posed. Our legal establishment, like our political establishment, takes our adherence as adatum, a given – a fact around which everything else must be fitted. As with EU membership, they are prepared to do pretty much anything that sounds tough, short of actually leaving. Hence the slightly garbled briefing to Nick Robinson today, which suggests that ministers are groping around for some half-way status.
http://blogs.telegraph.co.uk/news/d...e-echr-we-should-leave-cleanly/#disqus_thread

He'd have us all in work camps.

 

[nino_savatte]

The ever-moronic Daniel Hannan stands up for TTIP. Why, you may ask does he do this? Because he's a neoliberal cunt who stands to make loads of money from it.

It’s already clear what the first big dispute in the new European Parliament is going to be. Should the EU sign a free trade agreement with the United States and, if so, on what terms?

A number of MEPs distrust free trade in their bones. Almost all the communists, with their fascist cousins, will vote against a commercial deal with the US, regardless of the content. Several MEPs in other groups are also suspicious. Some want the deal to be conditional on environmental standards or on social regulation. Others drag in wholly unrelated issues, such as data sharing or foreign policy. Still others dislike the clauses that allow companies to override national governments when those governments are in breach of the agreement. Add the outright anti-capitalists to the qualified protectionists and you have an anti-TTIP majority. (TTIP, the Transatlantic Trade and Investment Partnership, is the official name.)
http://blogs.telegraph.co.uk/news/d...the-eu-us-trade-deal-should-watch-this-video/

This is particularly ignorant and for someone who supposedly has a degree in Modern History, Hannan is remarkably crass.

Almost all the communists, with their fascist cousins, will vote against a commercial deal with the US, regardless of the content.

 

[Quartz]

Does anyone believe that the Americans would really play fair?

And this

Still others dislike the clauses that allow companies to override national governments when those governments are in breach of the agreement.

is a gross simplification of a gross iniquity. You must not put companies ahead of people.

 

[stavros]

Almost all the communists, with their fascist cousins, will vote against a commercial deal with the US, regardless of the content.

There should be common ground there, because many Tories would do much the same thing with anything EU-related.

 

[gosub]

Genesis: 'We were hated' news story. That isn't news.

 

[stavros]

Genesis: 'We were hated' news story. That isn't news.

Ah, the superfluous past tense.

 

[eatmorecheese]

Desperate Daily Mail style UKIP leaning bullshit, perfect candidate for Britain First click-bait.

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/educatio...uded-English-speaking-students-from-trip.html

 

[nino_savatte]

It's political correctness gawn mad.

 

[PoorButNotAChav]

Which newspaper website has stories with the following headlines:

'Vampire grave' found in Bulgaria

British parrot missing for four years returns speaking Spanish

Dwarf stripper gets bride pregnant on her hen night

Is it?

A) The Sun
B) The Daily Star
C) The Daily Sport
D) The super-soaraway Daily Telegraph

 

[stavros]

The bloke in front of me at the newsagent this morning was buying the Telegraph and the Mail. I almost certainly live within a mile of such a specimen.

 

[Roadkill]

Peter Oborne's just walked.

*e2s* Open Democracy, where he's posted his statement, appears to be wobbling atm - Grauniad story here.

 

[stavros]

Private Eye seems to have a fortnightly section for Telegraph hacks leaving or getting very heavily leant on. They also contained a point about how a lot of their loyal readership are reaching the age when they're not much longer for this mortal coil.

 

[Roadkill]

They also contained a point about how a lot of their loyal readership are reaching the age when they're not much longer for this mortal coil.

That's probably true. And I've long thought the reason why the Express is always screaming about alzheimers, cancer cures and quack medicines to prolong your life is that most of its readers are of an age to worry about such things!

 

[stavros]

And I've long thought the reason why the Express is always screaming about alzheimers, cancer cures and quack medicines to prolong your life is that most of its readers are of an age to worry about such things!

That and the fact that copy and pasting any bollocks they find on the internet is cheaper than actual journalism. Besides, it's that or more Diana stories.

 

[Hocus Eye.]

Peter Oborne's just walked.

*e2s* Open Democracy, where he's posted his statement, appears to be wobbling atm - Grauniad story here.

I just read the story on Open Democracy and the same issues were brought up in a TV interview with Oborne on Channel 4 news. It looks as if the Telegraph is going to be doing the wobbling from now on. Its news content had become more junk like over the last two years and this story gives many
clues as to why. RIP Daily Telegraph.

 

[Roadkill]

That and the fact that copy and pasting any bollocks they find on the internet is cheaper than actual journalism. Besides, it's that or more Diana stories.

Yes, although - Diana stories aside - that's true of pretty much every other paper too.