the left is dead

[ViolentPanda]

What about Madagascar?

Too hot and humid for us pale-skinned Hymies.

 

[butchersapron]

What does this reality check consist of - you going baaah!

 

[exosculate]

You don't think 'the left' recognise that most people are 'pro-capitalist'?

That doesn't mean they hold 'entrenched' right wing views. There's a whole host of reasons why people might vote for the BNP, or the Tories, or Labour...

These two statements show the cognitive dissonance here!

 

[exosculate]

What does this reality check consist of - you going baaah!

That the right has won, and people like yourself cannot cope with it.

 

[ViolentPanda]

ah yes the mighty vp who has never misrepresented anyone ever gosh your so angelic

Did I say I'd never misrepresented anyone, brasic?
Have I claimed to be "angelic", or "mighty"?
Nope.
You're projecting.

if you dont give ahsit then why keep posting replies

Because I can, little eyeroller. Because I can.

 

[butchersapron]

There's no contradiction in those two statements from mk12. Do you know what 'entrenched' actually means? It;'s quite clearly possible to hold a view shallowly or for a particular reason or set of circumstances, when that reason or circumstances change so does the belief.

People live in this thing called 'time' exo.

 

[ViolentPanda]

The left is dead, the people are sheeple.

The majority of people are brain washed, herd forming, low thinkers. This will not change.

Performance poetry?

Are you "Alan Parker: Urban Warrior", perchance?

 

[butchersapron]

That the right has won, and people like yourself cannot cope with it.

No offence, but you're the one whose turned into a raving loon under the pressure.

 

[exosculate]

There's no contradiction in those two statements from mk12. Do you know what 'entrenched' actually means? It;'s quite clearly possible to hold a view shallowly or for a particular reason or set of circumstances, when that reason or circumstances change so does the belief.

People live in this thing called 'time' exo.

The views are not held shallowly though. A long time has already passed, and all it produced was another herdsman .....Stalin.

 

[ViolentPanda]

The left are incapable of recognising the entrenched right wing nature of the views of the vast majority of the population in this country.

So they need you to show them the way, do they?

 

[butchersapron]

The views are not held shallowly though. A long time has already passed, and all it produced was another herdsman .....Stalin.

Wow, the same people who put Stalin in power in the 20s are going to vote the tories in. Which is a calamity that has sent you over the edge, even though your argument is that there's no difference between labour and the tories. You've got it all figured don't you?

 

[ViolentPanda]

That the right has won, and people like yourself cannot cope with it.

If the right has won, why does the right still fight so hard to attain power? Is it a case of the message from the brain not having yet reached the tail, or could it be that what you're stating is inaccurate?

 

[exosculate]

No offence, but you're the one whose turned into a raving loon under the pressure.

I connect with reality you do not. You have a foolish notion that if you just keep arguing and doing certain activities then eventually the dominant ideology will be overthrown. History is on my side when it says this will not happen. Herdsman going about their herding are replaced by other herdsman herding more voraciously than before. That is the historical reality.

 

[exosculate]

If the right has won, why does the right still fight so hard to attain power? Is it a case of the message from the brain not having yet reached the tail, or could it be that what you're stating is inaccurate?

It manages rather well, it doesn't need to fight. The Tories are coming to power soon not the IWCA or some such.

 

[butchersapron]

Stop herding voracioulsy over there!!

You've lost it basically. (I know a good retreat you could crawl into if you like) It's not uncommon. We should make a list of people that have lost it over the last 5 years.

 

[butchersapron]

It manages rather well, it doesn't need to fight. The Tories are coming to power soon not the IWCA or some such.

And again he undermines his own argument that there's no difference between anyone or anything. Would you stop, wipe the spit off your face and think about this point?

 

[exosculate]

Wow, the same people who put Stalin in power in the 20s are going to vote the tories in. Which is a calamity that has sent you over the edge, even though your argument is that there's no difference between labour and the tories. You've got it all figured don't you?

Of course there is a marginal difference between Labour and Tory - no fundamental difference I agree. Public spending v tax cuts is significant enough though.

I think you misunderstand my Stalin point, I cannot be arsed to explain it though to be honest.

 

[exosculate]

And again he undermines his own argument that there's no difference between anyone or anything. Would you stop, wipe the spit off your face and think about this point?

I am not undermining anything, I have no idea what you are talking about.

People are right wing and they vote right wing and this has always been - I think my point is obvious.

 

[butchersapron]

Of course there is a marginal difference between Labour and Tory - no fundamental difference I agree. Public spending v tax cuts is significant enough though.

I think you misunderstand my Stalin point, I cannot be arsed to explain it though to be honest.

How handy, your little burst of enthusiasm over the last month has seen you post not a single contribution of any content or anything that contained more than a few lines of rote-sheeple (there's a joke in there, see if you can find it) whinging dissapointment and vicious i hate you all

 

[ViolentPanda]

It manages rather well...

I didn't ask how it managed, I asked why the right still fights to attain power.

...it doesn't need to fight.

If it doesn't then why is it wasting valuable resources doing so?

The Tories are coming to power soon not the IWCA or some such.

And your point is...

 

[exosculate]

Stop herding voracioulsy over there!!

You've lost it basically. (I know a good retreat you could crawl into if you like) It's not uncommon. We should make a list of people that have lost it over the last 5 years.

If you keep repeating something it does not make it so.

It is the hard left that are fantasists not me.

 

[butchersapron]

I am not undermining anything, I have no idea what you are talking about.

People are right wing and they vote right wing and this has always been - I think my point is obvious.

I think your idiocy is obvious. Peoples behaviour is different at different times under different conditions and under different pressures. Please don't reduce people down to this idiocy -as if they're only capable of one sort of action at all times. This despairing shit is pretty teenage and pathetic to be totally honest.

 

[exosculate]

How handy, your little burst of enthusiasm over the last month has seen you post not a single contribution of any content or anything that contained more than a few lines of rote-sheeple (there's a joke in there, see if you can find it) whinging dissapointment and vicious i hate you all

I don't hate I despair at it. What people post on here matters not - its not like it has meaning, its just for fun isn't it.

 

[exosculate]

I didn't ask how it managed, I asked why the right still fights to attain power.

If it doesn't then why is it wasting valuable resources doing so?

And your point is...

No sorry - don't get any of that!

 

[butchersapron]

If you keep repeating something it does not make it so.

It is the hard left that are fantasists not me.

How true. At least if i try to add some arguments and points other people may be convinced though. Whereas you...pfft!

 

[exosculate]

I think your idiocy is obvious. Peoples behaviour is different at different times under different conditions and under different pressures. Please don't reduce people down to this idiocy -as if they're only capable of one sort of action at all times. This despairing shit is pretty teenage and pathetic to be totally honest.

My barometer is the world I live in which is pretty bleak in places, thats not teenage to call it as it is. Where do you live happyclappy land? Or do you own a pair of rose tinted glasses?

p.s I love the way you get insulting when you don't like other viewpoints. Almost a hallmark.

 

[butchersapron]

I don't hate I despair at it. What people post on here matters not - its not like it has meaning, its just for fun isn't it.

So stop crying and bleeding allover everyone then.

 

[exosculate]

How true. At least if i try to add some arguments and points other people may be convinced though. Whereas you...pfft!

You believe the left is not dead....fine......I believe it is. Get over it!

 

[exosculate]

So stop crying and bleeding allover everyone then.

You are projecting NONSENSE........AGAIN!

 

[butchersapron]

You believe the left is not dead....fine......I believe it is. Get over it!

Even though i've said to you explicitly on this thread that i think the left is dead, and even though i've been arguing that on here and elsewhere for the last 15 years. You're very observant aren't you? Dead sharp like.