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news from here is i can feel a redundancy coming on - new job i started in the spring was partly based on additional government funding that was (then) impending, which still hasn't actually been handed over, and there's a growing feeling in this line of work that it's just not going to happen now (although that won't be clear until after the budget happens.)

in theory, i'd be one of a pool of 3 on the same grade made 'at risk' but the 2 who were there before me both have enough service in to mean they would attract redundancy pay, and i know how it tends to work.

Current job was a bit of a hasty decision to escape a disaster of a job change late summer last year, it's some distance from home, but i only need to go there once or twice a month, so a long day every now and then, and an occasional overnight stay somewhere if i need to be there 2 days, or need to be sure of being there for something the next morning. I was keeping an open mind whether to move somewhere nearer the job (north of london) or somewhere nearer ageing mum-tat (SE London) on the basis that i'm probably going to need to go round there more often than i go to the office. the latter would probably have involved raising a bit of finance, which is going to be less easy now than it was a couple of months ago.

Part of me is inclined just to wait and see what happens, but I've seen two adverts this week,

one is for something fairly undemanding but do-able (if they don't think i'm overqualified / too old / not got the right sort of experience) in SE London that would mean moving, and a bit less money than i'm on now, but i'd not really need to run a car any more.

other is fairly local, but is a 2 year contract doing the sort of thing i do and a higher level. but that would mean being here another 2 years, and by the time it ends, i'll be close to 55 which is probably a bit old for getting something else and moving house (especially if that involves raising any finance) but a bit young for doing this as a final fling before retirement.

bugger.
 
not really sure what the etiquette is about interviewing for something permanent / more long term while you're in a temporary job. gut feeling is the more short term / casual the current thing is, the more reasonable it is to keep looking for something more long term rather than wait for the contract to end.

may be a bit awkward having to take time off (if it can't be fitted in any other way) so early in a new job, though.

has the new (shorter term) job got a week's notice or what? or are you contracted to see the 3 months out (or is there a worthwhile bonus if you do?)

how likely is the other opportunity to come round again at the end of the 3 months?

as ever, i'd suggest trying to keep your options open as long as you can.
It has gone a bit weird, the temp place have given me absolutely top notch equipment, high spec CAD quality laptop for excel work, a single project with an unspecified amount of weeks to complete that I am looking at being done in way less so far (but won't raise expectations too high as I know where that leads) and it is so easy going. I don't get hassled, there are variable everythings, wfh whenever I want, start/finish the same. I had two meetings this week and one was a find out what the project is and got an unprompted apology about it being 9am, the next is make sure I get paid.

I can fit in anything whenever unless I have the very sparse meetings. Not sure about notice but big local employer so a week would be useful for potential future reasons, especially with weekly pay and other place being monthly and Christmas coming up... No bonus, they do temp to perm usually so kind of standard and they are definitely lacking in what I am doing. I went straight into a project for a head of two departments that involves their main fee quotes, so not a small thing on 7-8 figure projects. Also given leeway to do however I wanted so long as it works.

This particular opportunity? Not sure, I was once one of their biggest users from the other side of the equation however... so that holds some weight in a national company. Enough they sent people who dont leave the office, ever, 400 miles to meet me when an upgrade happened. Also its the sort of money where I could sit at that level indefinitely with ease and just get lower hours as I go along for the same comparative pay. I just like this one more..... so far anyway. I tend to go all in on things if they are actually not shit because I want stability. The other role could lead to consultant work at insane wages but wow the inconsistency concerns me even at triple my new day rate, which is 40% over my last wage, other role is 50% over that....

Honestly I would rather stay here but its, will I get to? Is this a fair representation of work here? I could go up a few grades in a few years and be easily settled but I literally just completed a qualification in the other role and have experience. It isn't as challenging tho. I seem to do 5 years and get a professional qualification or vice versa then find it boring, did my 3rd in May and was looking at new areas while studying lol. This is all problem solving, all day, with good conditions and minimal hassle. That was always the dream, well apart from the not working bit. No hassle, a challenge so I am not bored and pay that's enough. I don't care about the idea of earning lots of money, unless it means it also doesn't affect my personal life or cause more stress. I saw my dad work his ass off in about 8 different fields then have to medically retire then died barely into 'real' retirement earlier this year having not been able to enjoy it, fuck that.
 
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It has gone a bit weird

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I saw my dad work his ass off in about 8 different fields then have to medically retire then died barely into 'real' retirement earlier this year having not been able to enjoy it, fuck that.

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can relate to that - my dad got early retirement at 57 (he'd been with that company more or less since he finished his national service) and didn't quite last one year of retirement

one is for something fairly undemanding but do-able (if they don't think i'm overqualified / too old / not got the right sort of experience) in SE London that would mean moving, and a bit less money than i'm on now, but i'd not really need to run a car any more.

i couldn't quite face that one - for one thing, would not have been wfh-able, so would have meant moving house rapidly - renting somewhere and then selling up here.

other is fairly local, but is a 2 year contract doing the sort of thing i do and a higher level. but that would mean being here another 2 years, and by the time it ends, i'll be close to 55 which is probably a bit old for getting something else and moving house (especially if that involves raising any finance) but a bit young for doing this as a final fling before retirement.

it's 3 years not 2.

hmm.

of course redundancy in current job isn't definite (even if the chancellor's budget goes how i think it will, it will be a month or three making a decision to have redundancies, then a process - the other two people on same grade as me have been there longer, one's got a youngish family so certainly wouldn't volunteer to go, the other's about the same sort of age as me, so probably not quite at the 'looking for early retirement' phase.)

where i live now was intended as temporary nearly 20 years ago and for various reasons, possible moves since just haven't quite happened.

do i want another 3 years in limbo (but getting paid a decent amount) - if i get it of course? and then try to get something else when i'm 56?

or risk redundancy in a few months and be scratching around for whatever i can get then?

oh bugger. i'm too old and too tired for this shit.

(while recognising i could be in a worse position...)
 
I find it really hard to apply for jobs. Today is the deadline for a job I have known about for weeks. Instead of applying bit by bit when I get a chance my anxiety has spiralled and I just can’t do it. Can someone fix me? I can pay…in other top tips of how to sabotage yourself
Just smash it out! It can’t hurt! The worst that can happen is you’ll submit a really crap application and get put on the reject pile. Does that help?
 
I find it really hard to apply for jobs. Today is the deadline for a job I have known about for weeks. Instead of applying bit by bit when I get a chance my anxiety has spiralled and I just can’t do it. Can someone fix me? I can pay…in other top tips of how to sabotage yourself

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depending on how much of a habit you make of applying for jobs, if it's not stating the obvious, it's worth keeping electronic copy of previous ones, so that you can recycle at least some of the bullshit explanations of why you're ideal for the job

and it's worth bearing in mind that some employers will close applications before the deadline date if they get x number of applications, so it's not a good idea to leave it until the last day.

as for how to, dunno. does it work for you to make a diary note that on this day / evening you are going to do this job application?
 
I find it really hard to apply for jobs. Today is the deadline for a job I have known about for weeks. Instead of applying bit by bit when I get a chance my anxiety has spiralled and I just can’t do it. Can someone fix me? I can pay…in other top tips of how to sabotage yourself

Also save anything you draft answers for so the next application does not feel like a massive effort as you modify what you previously drafted. Good luck.
 
Just smash it out! It can’t hurt! The worst that can happen is you’ll submit a really crap application and get put on the reject pile. Does that help?
It does actually! I’m just a bit tired. My toddler is a wannabe newborn. I’ve actually had some peace whilst they were taken to the park. I’ve had about 1hr 30mins to myself and I tidied up a bit then have been scrolling on my phone. I don’t have the concentration for long tasks.but that just more excuses. You’re right tho…just get it done
 
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depending on how much of a habit you make of applying for jobs, if it's not stating the obvious, it's worth keeping electronic copy of previous ones, so that you can recycle at least some of the bullshit explanations of why you're ideal for the job

and it's worth bearing in mind that some employers will close applications before the deadline date if they get x number of applications, so it's not a good idea to leave it until the last day.

as for how to, dunno. does it work for you to make a diary note that on this day / evening you are going to do this job application?
I put reminders and it’s not that I’ve forgotten. I just get stupidly anxious about it. As a result I’ve ended up only applying for one job this year. I do chop and change previous applications so that I’m at least not starting from scratch. It’s just procrastination I guess and you’re right about some applications closing before the closing date. I’ve seen it mentioned on some ads.
 
I put reminders and it’s not that I’ve forgotten. I just get stupidly anxious about it. As a result I’ve ended up only applying for one job this year. I do chop and change previous applications so that I’m at least not starting from scratch. It’s just procrastination I guess and you’re right about some applications closing before the closing date. I’ve seen it mentioned on some ads.
Are you joking me? Employers are desperate, they can’t hire enough people. Nobody is closing before the closing date at the moment.
 
Sorry for asking a probably foolish question. And sorry again if this is the wrong place to ask, but...

I was idly browsing a job website or three and found an advert for a role which appears to match 99% what I've been doing for the last 20+ years. However, it has a requirement I don't understand, which is "SC clearance mandatory". What the heck does that mean?

:confused:
 
Sorry for asking a probably foolish question. And sorry again if this is the wrong place to ask, but...

I was idly browsing a job website or three and found an advert for a role which appears to match 99% what I've been doing for the last 20+ years. However, it has a requirement I don't understand, which is "SC clearance mandatory". What the heck does that mean?

:confused:

this thread (about a job i applied for - and didn't get shortlisted for - a couple of years ago) may be relevant
 
the possibility of redundancy seems to have faded.

the local-ish job i mentioned in november that was a 2-3 year contract has been re-advertised at a slightly higher pay level (implies that they didn't get anyone last time round)

the idea of a couple of years of good money, squirrel as much away as possible then accept (probable) semi-retirement - hmm.
 
Are you joking me? Employers are desperate, they can’t hire enough people. Nobody is closing before the closing date at the moment.

nottsgirl this can happen. I put a post out & capped it at 25 applicants as I knew it would attract a lot of applications & not all of them a good standard & there is no auto reject. I had to read them all & give reason for not making interview. Even at calling at 25 I still ended up interviewing over 2 days. This is in the NHS. For other posts I put out a few years back I would get 10 applications & 2 would be rejected I’m now lucky to get 4 applications.
 
I've got an online interview for an ideal role on teams tomorrow. I know I need to look smart but do folks normally go the whole hog and wear a tie and or a suit? My guess is to treat it the same as a face to face interview?
 
I've got an online interview for an ideal role on teams tomorrow. I know I need to look smart but do folks normally go the whole hog and wear a tie and or a suit? My guess is to treat it the same as a face to face interview?

I wouldn't do a tie, no. I mean you're at home. They might think you wear that around the house. Just a nice shirt. And a good backdrop. If you don't have one of those then blur it. If it's a corporate type job, treat the dress code like dress down friday. Tidy, but its still work.
 
I've got an online interview for an ideal role on teams tomorrow. I know I need to look smart but do folks normally go the whole hog and wear a tie and or a suit? My guess is to treat it the same as a face to face interview?
if it goes tits up blame Petcha

i've only had one online job interview (internal) and i didn't dress up, wear a nice, ironed shirt and some bermuda shorts and you'll do fine. tell them your internet connection's playing up and if you get any difficult questions zap the meeting and rejoin a couple of minutes later when you've an answer
 
and check Teams / camera etc is working a bit before.

(one place i did an interview with when the remote interview thing was new, they arranged a pre-interview 5 minute teams meeting with someone else about half an hour before the interview, to make sure it was all working)
I tried to have a Teams interview last week, turned out Teams on my laptop was linked to an old email account for a college course I did a couple of years ago. There was no option to logout and log back in again with my hotmail account. Whenever I tried to click the link again, it autofilled with the college email address.

So I had to phone and have a phone interview instead.

Afterwards, I had to uninstall Teams and reinstall it to get rid of the college email address details.
 
Fully tested my camera and everything and although it lit up as though It was working it didn't go through to the interviewers end but he was happy to proceed with voice only. First job interview for the best part of six years. A tad nerve racking but I reckon I impressed enough to earn a face to face interview. I shall see.
 
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