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Work is actually going ok and instead of bumper car job applications I’m having a good think about what I’d really like to do. I want to eventually get out of my current field (too stressful, hopefully get a corporate gig with a better salary). I’m thinking about Human Resources at the moment. It’s not unrelated to what I do now. Has a terrible rep though right?
I might talk to someone I know who works in the field.
I might talk to someone I know who works in the field.
There just doesn’t seem to be much out there that suits me. They were a few viable options a couple of months ago but I really couldn’t get to grips with making a app form. Really want to move now. This was meant to be a stop gap now I’m just the resident dogsbody
smmudge
i know the smudge is true
I went for a job at the company where l work. It was a sidestep into something quite different but that I've always been interested and looking out for a job to come up there.
I went for the first interview and the woman who would have been my boss was quite, well, abrasive I guess. I thought hmm maybe just a tactic to see how I act under pressure. They invited me for a second interview (unexpected, I'm not sure that was the original plan) so I thought OK will give them another chance. But again she made some weird comments and maybe I didn't explain myself the best but she really twisted some things I said. And I thought do I want to work with this person as my direct supervisor??
So I withdrew. I really like the team I'm in at the moment and the work so I'm not desperate to move. Just interested in that area as a career but, I don't think that would see me through a shit working relationship.
And the manager above after I withdrew sent me a message to say it was a great shame and they were going to offer me the job on more pay!! A hard rethink but still hope I made the right decision
I went for the first interview and the woman who would have been my boss was quite, well, abrasive I guess. I thought hmm maybe just a tactic to see how I act under pressure. They invited me for a second interview (unexpected, I'm not sure that was the original plan) so I thought OK will give them another chance. But again she made some weird comments and maybe I didn't explain myself the best but she really twisted some things I said. And I thought do I want to work with this person as my direct supervisor??
So I withdrew. I really like the team I'm in at the moment and the work so I'm not desperate to move. Just interested in that area as a career but, I don't think that would see me through a shit working relationship.
And the manager above after I withdrew sent me a message to say it was a great shame and they were going to offer me the job on more pay!! A hard rethink but still hope I made the right decision
LeytonCatLady
Well-Known Member
Sounds like you followed your gut. They might offer more pay but is it worth your happiness to be with twats for half your waking hours? As you say, you like the team you're in and you're not in a rush to move. I think you did the right thing for yourself and your own wellbeing.I went for a job at the company where l work. It was a sidestep into something quite different but that I've always been interested and looking out for a job to come up there.
I went for the first interview and the woman who would have been my boss was quite, well, abrasive I guess. I thought hmm maybe just a tactic to see how I act under pressure. They invited me for a second interview (unexpected, I'm not sure that was the original plan) so I thought OK will give them another chance. But again she made some weird comments and maybe I didn't explain myself the best but she really twisted some things I said. And I thought do I want to work with this person as my direct supervisor??
So I withdrew. I really like the team I'm in at the moment and the work so I'm not desperate to move. Just interested in that area as a career but, I don't think that would see me through a shit working relationship.
And the manager above after I withdrew sent me a message to say it was a great shame and they were going to offer me the job on more pay!! A hard rethink but still hope I made the right decision
Actual job was ok today after a week off but I feel like it won’t last. Had a chat about another job this afternoon but I don’t think I’ll get it as they need people pronto and my notice period is probably too long. Have an interview tomorrow for a job I’m optimistic about. Fingers crossed.
AnnO'Neemus
Is so vanilla
That's happened where I work. Someone was supposed to be starting early this morning but the supposed new starter has ghosted the company. I've also heard that someone who started earlier this year didn't come back after lunch, and even in my group of new starters someone left after only one or two days.
Puddy_Tat
naturally fluffy
that's just silly even if they have changed their mind / got a better offer
i've known that (the 'going to lunch and not coming back' thing) a couple of times - one was a summer temp in a job that got bloody awful over summer, and think he had been expecting something fairly relaxing and to get paid for it, the other was somewhere fairly crappy but they were a permanent worker there - there were various rumours but not sure i ever quite knew what that was about.
hope it goes well
Elpenor
a clown’s heart and a mandolin
I’ve quit three permanent jobs in the first week and one after a month
In all cases they were the wrong environment / culture. In one of them I was in over my head and for two of them I wasn’t really well enough to be working
My other permanent jobs have all been at least 4 years
Puddy_Tat
naturally fluffy
I’ve quit three permanent jobs in the first week and one after a month
other than temporary jobs, and one place that offered me a job then went bust while i was working out my notice from previous place, think my recent 3 and a bit months was my shortest stay somewhere.
in hindsight, i should have asked at the interview what the drop out rate is for people doing the initial training (the sort of job where the first 6 months to a year is training) - the interview (from where i was sitting) seemed to go so badly i just wanted to get out of there so i didn't ask many questions. found out that of the previous intake, 3 of 4 had left within 6 months, and of the intake i was in, i was the second of 4 to quit...
i think it was them, not me...
Elpenor
a clown’s heart and a mandolin
Then there’s the jobs I’ve been offered and then not accepted as I’ve panicked about starting a new job and stick with the devil I know.
other than temporary jobs, and one place that offered me a job then went bust while i was working out my notice from previous place, think my recent 3 and a bit months was my shortest stay somewhere.
in hindsight, i should have asked at the interview what the drop out rate is for people doing the initial training (the sort of job where the first 6 months to a year is training) - the interview (from where i was sitting) seemed to go so badly i just wanted to get out of there so i didn't ask many questions. found out that of the previous intake, 3 of 4 had left within 6 months, and of the intake i was in, i was the second of 4 to quit...
i think it was them, not me...
That’s a good question to ask although you’d expect them to lie - it might just catch them unawares. I don’t think I’ll have another job interview again. Feel happy where I work now and at the right level. Feel like my career prime was in my mid 30s. Only way up is to manage people and I’m much happier not doing that
Puddy_Tat
naturally fluffy
I'm also sort of at the stage of accepting that probably the best i can hope for is to hang on to the current job until i can afford to retire.
Not sure if it's going to last, with potential for big government spending cuts to come, or whether combination of working full time and care of ageing mum-tat is going to be practical for much longer. blargh.
Gromit
International Man of Misery
Showed an agency temp around the office in the morning.
Explained the Flexi 30-120 min lunch break time to them and packed them off to lunch.
After 130 mins it was obvious that he wasn't enjoying a long Flexi lunch. He just wasn't coming back.
I think he was expecting a filing and photocopying job that had could skive through not a real job.
LeytonCatLady
Well-Known Member
I was supposed to have a phone interview at 10:30 with a company this morning. I'd prepared by doing some reading on them and was still waiting by the phone at 11:00. I rang the recruiter, and told him I needed to go out. He said "Well, can't you hang on a bit longer? They're desperate to speak to you!" Clearly not so desperate that they could be arsed to ring me at the agreed time, though. If I did that to them, it would be an instant blacklisting. I can understand meetings overrun, and I'd forgive five or even ten minutes, but half an hour is taking the piss. I asked if it would be possible to reschedule on Monday as I've got back to back commitments today and tomorrow. I didn't really have any more interviews today but I went out because I had better things to do than sit around waiting for their call. Clearly not a company that respects people's time.
LeytonCatLady
Well-Known Member
UPDATE: The recruiter texted me today and asked if I'd do an 18:00 interview with the same client. I said no thank you, I'd lost interest in view of their shoddy attitude to punctuality, and anyway I've got plans on a Friday night. Recruiter called me "childish" for not wanting to reschedule and went on and on about what great money I'm missing out on and it would be "worth it". I politely disagreed, as I suspect they'd be the sort of company to weaponise the salary against people, use that as an excuse for all manner of shitty behaviour and not have any respect for staff's boundaries/lives outside work. They can't be bothered to ring me on time but apparently I'm expected to drop my plans for them. Money's good but so's my self respect, and this company has not treated me the way they'd want to be. I bet even now they're typing up a scathing LinkedIn post about how "Nobody wants to work any more". They've tried spamming me with phone calls all day and as a result have bought themselves a one way ticket to Block City.
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AnnO'Neemus
Is so vanilla
The recruiter is simply pissed off that they're losing out on the potential commission they would have earned if you'd been successful at interview and the agency had earned a percentage of your salary as commission.
Sadly, the recruiter will possibly blacklist you out of spite and possibly won't put you forward for other jobs. That's what happened to me when I registered with an agency a couple of years ago and I was being asked about my experience and I mentioned I've done X, but don't want to do that task again in another role. So what did they do? Put me forward for a job that involved doing X. I suspected that they might've already mentioned me to the company, because when I declined an interview (after the recruiter tried to set one up) they were a bit arsey with me. And they haven't contacted me with any job vacancies at all since then, which seems terribly petty and spiteful.
LeytonCatLady
Well-Known Member
Fuck them. At least it weeds out the shitty employers we wouldn't want to work for anyway. I only want something short term until I can get back to busking again. When I walked out on my last long term job and started busking for a living, I swore I'd never work for a boss again. That was in 2017, and obviously the lockdowns meant I had to take a raincheck on that, but I came up with the compromise of taking a job offer while I'm claiming UC, but don't stay more than six months. Then if I hate it, I know I don't have to be there forever, which makes it easier to stick out and save for my busking goals. But being my own boss made it very clear to me what behaviour I will and won't accept from an employer in future, and if they've got no respect for me or my time this early in the process, it just won't work. Their loss.
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LeytonCatLady
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That reminds me of when I was temping for Tate in 2012 and got let go from a particular client (the Paddington office of a now defunct railway company which rhymed with Vermin Pains), despite the fact it was a simple admin job and the supervisors had kept saying I was doing well. The manager's reason given for sacking me was "LeytonCatLady was a nice girl but I just had a feeling about her". So I made an official complaint about him on the grounds of suspected sex discrimination, which no one could prove, but Tate promised this wouldn't affect me being offered more work - despite lecturing me about "defaming a nice man's character". They did call me a few times with offers but always places outside London they knew full well I couldn't afford to commute by public transport. When I politely explained that, they'd play innocent and go "Oh damn! Of course, you don't drive, do you?" Fucking pricks. I didn't bother with them again because I'd rather not get "offers" that are blatantly disingenuous.
And yes, I'm aware I was a temp and legally he could get rid of me for whatever reason he wanted, but even if it's legal, it's not OK. If I hadn't been a temp and it had been a "being fired" situation, he couldn't just be like "Well I've just got a feeling about you. Whoops-a-daisy, that's how it is here!" I was pissed off at Tate because when they'd called me with the Virgin role, they guaranteed me at least six weeks' work and even told me I didn't need to go to an interview I had scheduled. It was still in the days of Jobseekers' Allowance where you had to sign off for any work lasting at least a month and I wanted him to know that can really fuck up someone's money, so if you are going to make someone jobless just like that, then morally you should have a fucking good reason.
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muscovyduck
Good IT skills and food hygiene competent
Tate as in the art gallery? They just had to pay out a 6 figure sum for playing a game like this with an artist iirc
LeytonCatLady
Well-Known Member
No, Tate Recruitment!
They're an employment agency with offices in all the major UK cities, but I don't think they're anything to do with the art gallery.
LeytonCatLady
Well-Known Member
I start a new job on Tuesday! It's a temporary call centre job for a few months which will hopefully build up my busking capital again. They seem like a nice company - an hour lunch and two 15 minute breaks (which should be standard everywhere but unfortunately isn't). I had the interview today and the agency rang me with the start date within 15 minutes, so I was impressed at the quick turnaround. No more Jobcentre for a while!
xsunnysuex
Life is a horizontal fall.
Congratulations!Only went and got the freaking job
newme
Giant in Pastyland now
I've got a job starting monday, its with the second biggest place in the area, which is rural and frankly awful for local wage rates, sadly its 3 months and not really my area, just something I picked up as I went along in other roles so theres some winging it and binging youtube tutorials frankly.
Also got some offers for longer term in my actual qualified and experienced area, but they want to interview me next week!?!
I know any employer will just dump me at a moments notice but interviewing while I am just starting still seems idk daft when its as I said one of the biggest employers. These are year contracts tho, I've 5 years experience and a qualification over the level they asked for, then if I got that I would never have to interview again in theory! I hate job seeking and interviews, just want something stable (theres even a potential bonus, not something I ever had before!).
Do I say I am doing temp work and have a week notice? If they ask the start date thats going to be odd if I say well err it was Monday. Stayed at the last place 5 years, agreeing to interviews on the first day seems to set the wrong impression compared to that lol.
Also got some offers for longer term in my actual qualified and experienced area, but they want to interview me next week!?!
I know any employer will just dump me at a moments notice but interviewing while I am just starting still seems idk daft when its as I said one of the biggest employers. These are year contracts tho, I've 5 years experience and a qualification over the level they asked for, then if I got that I would never have to interview again in theory! I hate job seeking and interviews, just want something stable (theres even a potential bonus, not something I ever had before!).
Do I say I am doing temp work and have a week notice? If they ask the start date thats going to be odd if I say well err it was Monday. Stayed at the last place 5 years, agreeing to interviews on the first day seems to set the wrong impression compared to that lol.
Puddy_Tat
naturally fluffy
not really sure what the etiquette is about interviewing for something permanent / more long term while you're in a temporary job. gut feeling is the more short term / casual the current thing is, the more reasonable it is to keep looking for something more long term rather than wait for the contract to end.
may be a bit awkward having to take time off (if it can't be fitted in any other way) so early in a new job, though.
has the new (shorter term) job got a week's notice or what? or are you contracted to see the 3 months out (or is there a worthwhile bonus if you do?)
how likely is the other opportunity to come round again at the end of the 3 months?
as ever, i'd suggest trying to keep your options open as long as you can.
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