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Let's make this easier - what musicals do you like Kabbes? Not liking Singing In The Rain is...individual to say the very least. It's a masterpiece of it's genre.
 
Kabbes' understanding of the genre is sorely lacking. :( He'll start banging on about songs advancing the plot again in a minute, as if such empty formalism enlightened anyone.
 
Let's make this easier - what musicals do you like Kabbes? Not liking Singing In The Rain is...individual to say the very least. It's a masterpiece of it's genre.
West Side Story. Moulin Rouge. Going more old-school, Gentlemen Prefer Blondes.
 
Kabbes' understanding of the genre is sorely lacking. :( He'll start banging on about songs advancing the plot again in a minute, as if such empty formalism enlightened anyone.
I apologise for such unenlightened thinking of not wanting to watch something that is just a little bit turgid, awkward and dull.
 
No, the episode they were voting for really was an incredibly good musical in its own right. Great song and dance numbers. And a plot that was taken forward via its musical numbers.

If it fails to do any of those things its just a rubbish musical then (or a very very early one, which might well be the same thing). Too many of the songs were only average (tara's really began to grate around the third reprise) and whilst it was amusing to watch Giles sing, it wasn't that great outside of the entire series. We've often shown it to non-fans, and it hasn't impressed them half as much as Hush or some of te other talky episodes. It's a Buffy fans musical, not musical fans musical.

Besides, I hate to say it, but actually all Sondheim, all Rogers and Hammerstein, all Gene Kelly, and all Fred Astaire films are actually all just a little bit turgid, awkward and, well, dull.

you have no taste at all then.
 
Band of Brothers, The Wire and Six Feet Under should all be higher. Especially Band of Brothers. Amazing series. Can't wait for Pacific!
 
you have no taste at all then.
The world has moved on, to be honest. Few films of any genre from 50 years ago still cut it. The ones that do are still amongst the best films to watch, of course -- a masterpiece can be totally timeless. But most stories are of their time and at best seem quaint when taken out of their context.

Musicals of all the genres have aged particularly badly and Sondheim's in particular really haven't lasted well. All IMO, of course.
 
Incidentally, I apologise to the OP for inadvertently turning this thread into a discussion about musicals. It seems unfortunate.
 
I watched the Buffy musical and was embarrassed on behalf of the musical genre. It was clearly written by someone with a copy of Musicals For Dummies propped open on his desk. Oh, here's the Setting the Scene song. Here's the People Articulating Their Feelings number. No amount of knowing self-awareness can disguise the fact that it was a musical written by someone who didn't understand musicals.
 
There are a few absurldy 'overplaced' shows tho - How do You want Me? at 16, and how the fuck does A Very Peculiar Practise make 5? From a lot of Guardian correspondents being at uni with the writers I'm guessing

How do You Want Me? Was great, Dylan Moran and the late Charlotte Coleman, although I though it was more of a comedy than a drama.
 
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