A fresh new hot take. Just stop buying stuff man.What a load of consumerist wank this thread is. It's all arguing about the best way to line the pockets of the boss class more easily
The end of cash?
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Just enjoyin' my coffee.
I will. Fucking starving now I missed my chippy teaA fresh new hot take. Just stop buying stuff man.
I don’t think so. Maybe if it was a super-perfect one? But either way, you need to be looking right at the camera — if your eyes aren’t looking right at that camera, it won’t unlock. That alone would rule most photos out, I suspect.
Gromit
International Man of Misery
Winot
I wholeheartedley agree with your viewpoint
No. It measures depth - a 2D image doesn’t work.
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Depends on your phone. I used a revolut card on google wallet for travel money last year and I've used it a couple of times since then when I've been out without cash or cards and suddenly wanted to buy a snack or something, and I have to unlock my phone and then open the app and click on the card.
brogdale
Coming to terms with late onset Anarchism
With a bit more energy (& less beer) I've bothered to look this up for myself and it appears that Google wallet users do surrender considerable private data for the 'convenience' of using their phone to pay for stuff...
UnderOpenSky
baseline neural therapy
I had revolut for a while for the same reason. Don't think I had the issue, sounds like a bug. Their website says you shouldnt have to do that. Maybe remove the card and re add it?
Ditched them when I got Starling as they also do the free travel money thing from a proper bank account. Found I couldn't use Revolut with Pay at Pump in France and unattended filling stations are way more common there then the UK.
UnderOpenSky
baseline neural therapy
I think Apple nailed it (well till Covid came along). I think there was an issue with the Samsung version that you could, but I'd hope they sorted it by now.
It's google wallet and I have to do it for any cards or travel passes etc.
UnderOpenSky
baseline neural therapy
Something isn't set up right then. What phone do you have?
UnderOpenSky
baseline neural therapy
I'd check this screen first...
UnderOpenSky
baseline neural therapy
Maybe your right. When I did a brief stint for Barclaycard as temp in early 00s and bored out my brain with no Internet, I found myself reading their internal intranet with nothing better to do. It was before mobile payments were a thing, but they'd done studies that suggested people notice a missing phone way quicker then a missing card. I think I certainly would.
Of course with no phone I'm sure what I'd do. Maybe borrow my partners and do a remote wipe.
MickiQ
In My Defence I was left Unsupervised
I have mine set to disable if the screen is locked. I've had a credit card stolen twice (once abroad) the one in Rome I noticed immediately, the one here it took me a few hours by which time the shitbags had spent a grand on it (refunded so I didn't loose anything). Disabling a credit card is easy one phone call and it's done, disabling a stolen phone is a lot harder especially since I would have to come home to get my tablet and disable Wallet possibly phone multiple card providers. Requiring it to be unlocked buys me time to do all that.
And as you say unlocking it first is not an inconvenience.
Cid
Proper break this time
While these may look scary, I suspect what that most of that is really just back end stuff needed for the app to function properly. It obviously needs to store card info for a card to work, and it needs to meet security requirements for multiple jurisdictions.
What is omitted there is any mention of use for purposes outside functionality, fraud prevention and compliance. If you have a consumer contract that explicitly states the above quite limited use, and then have some back end clause saying 'and actually we'll use it for advertising' I am fairly sure you're stepping on a bunch of big regulatory shoes.
UnderOpenSky
baseline neural therapy
brogdale
Coming to terms with late onset Anarchism
Yes, I get that, and what UnderOpenSky added below your comment, but quite obviously one consequence/cost of the 'convenience' of using this corporate app is your own personal contribution to their data harvesting that, albeit in an anonymised form, will be sold on for their profit. Now if that's a deal you're happy with, then fine...but it is something that some people will not want to be part of.
skyscraper101
0891 50 50 50
What? No! Coins slip way more easily out of pockets than notes ever did. No more expensive coins!
sealion
Conformity is the last refuge of the unimaginitive
Taking denominations of £50 a time is not the behaviour of any of the above. I just thought there'd be some risk attached to such dubious transactions at that time of the day.
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Cid
Proper break this time
No, my point is that they can't do that unless they tell you they will. If you have explicitly stated that you are going to use data for specific purposes, you can't then hide a clause somewhere else saying you'll use it for something else. Consumer contracts in the jurisdictions I think we all live in are quite restrictive... You can get away with it in something like a clubcard app where it is explicitly stated on sign up, and where the data isn't as sensitive. I can't say definitively of course, I mean it's a screenshot, but the use of data google pay collects is very likely restricted to the above things.
liquidindian
Hello
Except that can be refused, as it's not legal tender.
Cid
Proper break this time
I can't find any particular details on this, but suspect that the fact pay is... a payment facility... and has to comply with regs across multiple jurisdictions will probably further limit how they can use any data collected. It is in any case something very different from 'Google wallet users do surrender considerable private data'.
The muddy area is probably more when they tie in with loyalty schemes.
moochedit
I'm not feeding seagulls
Yep 1p's only legal tender up to 20p.
Think law was changed a few years back to stop stunts like that.
Flavour
hang the bankers
i have always found it weird how in the UK the 50 quid note has never taken off as a normal thing, seeing one is rare, i don't think i've ever used one, perhaps seen them a dozen times in my entire life. but in Europe using a €50 note is totally normal, it's often the standard note given by ATMs (which often don't have €20 notes, and NEVER have tens or fives) - and in the US it's similar, using a $50 or even $100 note is not a big deal, happens quite regularly. i wonder why that is.
BristolEcho
Well-Known Member
That reminds me of the many times I was caught out by busses in Bristol due not having small enough change. Could be a nightmare at times especially during peak travel time.
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