The Dominic Cummings file

[two sheds]

This one?

 

[Lord Camomile]

Is that genuine?

Saw it quoted on Twitter (as per above screenshot), but has since been deleted.

 

[Plumdaff]

Is that genuine?

Yep. Gone now, but genuine.

 

[Doctor Carrot]

Is that genuine?

Yeah it is. Here's the link to it that has now been taken down of course.

 

[Steel Icarus]

Is that genuine?

Yeah, I saw it on Twitter. Pulled quick obvs

 

[Doctor Carrot]

On BBC news now!

 

[agricola]

the tweet is now on BBC news

chapeau

 

[Steel Icarus]

 

[redsquirrel]

The questions, the prevaricating, the filibustering on the public's questions, the technical problems with the BBC bloke were all part of the grade A shitshow. That's what I mean.

That reflects equally badly on the media as on the government. I'm not saying that buy the governments argument, but I don't think the media really landed many punches. To mix metaphors I'd say overall that the press conference was a no score draw.

But he could’ve done those things without repeatedly saying idiotic stuff like that C’d isolated for 14 days and that any good parent would do the same etc. Not really sure how it could have been done worse tbh apart from if he’d started obviously losing his temper?

How so? The gov. line (which may come undone) was that it was permissible for Cummings to go to Durham to self-isolate in the light of his childcare responsibilities. That's shit and to most people clearly bollocks but there might be just enough there technically. As I said gov strategy seems to be to draw this out, moving the story on from a clear 'breaking the lockdown' angle to lots of long arguments over technical details might work. In light of that strategy I don't think todays press conference was a disaster for the government.

EDIT: I should be clear that I'm only talking about the press conference above. Todays overall news coverage is very bad for the government but I don't think the press conference will particularly hurt them.

 

[ska invita]

 

[not-bono-ever]

fucking hell. what a country.

 

[Supine]

fucking hell. what a country.

never a dull moment!

 

[Bahnhof Strasse]

Pub Landlords, do you have kids? Has having no income since mid-March affected their lives? Will having no income for fuck knows when affect them? Follow your instincts as a parent and open up!

 

[bimble]

How so? The gov. line (which may come undone) was that it was permissible for Cummings to go to Durham to self-isolate in the light of his childcare responsibilities. That's shit and to most people clearly bollocks but there might be just enough there technically. As I said gov strategy seems to be to draw this out, moving the story on from a clear 'breaking the lockdown' angle to lots of long arguments over technical details might work. In light of that strategy I don't think todays press conference was a disaster for the government.

At the very least he could have avoided repeating easily disproved lies and total nonsense claims. I can’t imagine anybody who was riled by this before today’s show feeling anything but more so, and that’s got to count as a failure.

 

[FridgeMagnet]

There was never going to be a knockout in the press questions anyway. It's not an effective arena for it even if the questioners are any good.

 

[redsquirrel]

I can’t imagine anybody who was riled by this before today’s show feeling anything but more so, and that’s got to count as a failure.

Does it? Not having a shitload of people that don't like you anyway dislike you a little bit more is neither here nor there. The question is how this plays with those that were wavering.

 

[Pickman's model]

fucking hell. what a country.

c4u

 

[sheothebudworths]

I so fucking hope the Guardian & Mirror are going to serve up more tonight.

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Oh, I hope you have something good to drop tomorrow Pippa, please say you have

I saw this on the Guardian feed earlier (reposted on the live update feed a few hours after the original footage was taken and posted) -

'Here is a video showing Dominic Cummings leaving his north London home earlier this morning and denying that he had travelled to Durham a second time when he was asked by reporters.'

...(accompanied by the vid, obvs) which immediately looked a bit ' JUST SAYIN '...

 

[maomao]

There was never going to be a knockout in the press questions anyway. It's not an effective arena for it even if the questioners are any good.

Neither is Twitter and we can't exactly take to the streets at the moment. I'm not sure what that leaves. I've signed a petition and made death threats on Facebook. Other than that it's up to the media whether they are able to pursue it.

 

[bimble]

Does it? Not having a shitload of people that don't like you anyway dislike you a little bit more is neither here nor there. The question is how this plays with those that were wavering.

Let’s see what the next few days brings. The daily mail readers seem apoplectic with rage after that so that’s good.

 

[Pickman's model]

Let’s see what the next few days brings. The daily mail readers are apoplectic with rage so that’s good.

daily mail readers are always apoplectic with rage.

 

[Supine]

I’d imagine every service station between London and Durham has seen a surge in visits from journalists.

 

[weltweit]

Most cars can do 400 miles on a tank. So if the Discovery was full at the start they could have driven to Durham without needing to stop for fuel on the way. They would have had to buy fuel before coming back.

If it was full on setting off, you have to wonder at what point it was filled up, and if Cummings had symptoms when he filled it up.

It is usual to make a stop on a long journey (especially with children) and this trip of 260 miles would have taken potentially 5 hours or more, so it does seem more likely than not that they stopped en-route.

 

[bimble]

daily mail readers are always apoplectic with rage.

That is true. Not usually with this government though.

 

[Lord Camomile]

we can't exactly take to the streets at the moment.

I dunno, I'm getting mixed messages at the moment...

 

[two sheds]

Most cars can do 400 miles on a tank. So if the Discovery was full at the start they could have driven to Durham without needing to stop for fuel on the way. They would have had to buy fuel before coming back.

If it was full on setting off, you have to wonder at what point it was filled up, and if Cummings had symptoms when he filled it up.

It is usual to make a stop on a long journey (especially with children) and this trip of 260 miles would have taken potentially 5 hours or more, so it does seem more likely than not that they stopped en-route.

They'll have taken a packed lunch

 

[FridgeMagnet]

Neither is Twitter and we can't exactly take to the streets at the moment. I'm not sure what that leaves. I've signed a petition and made death threats on Facebook. Other than that it's up to the media whether they are able to pursue it.

Oh I imagine they will pursue it, just not there.

Realistically though there is a time limit that they would ever pursue it. I think the media's role is now a bit limited, unless there's more to reveal. It's up to others to make this a running sore, and to the Tories to rip each other apart about it.

 

[Raheem]

Tbf, the way I see it is Johnson's just following his instincts and doing what anyone who's not competent at their job and needs someone to do it for them would do.

 

[weltweit]

..
'Here is a video showing Dominic Cummings leaving his north London home earlier this morning and denying that he had travelled to Durham a second time when he was asked by reporters.'

...(accompanied by the vid, obvs) which immediately looked a bit ' JUST SAYIN '...

I wonder who his phone provider is?

 

[Raheem]

They'll have taken a packed lunch

And all pissed in the same 2L Coke bottle.