The Dominic Cummings file

[elbows]

I am not very happy with the way the BBC are trying to describe the quote at the moment, they've tried to take much of the sting out of it via the word 'could'.

They dumped that 'could' softening when it came to the main TV news broadcast where the story got headline billing.

The BBC coverage of Johnson at the moment is starting to resemble the sort of spectacle we get when they smell blood.

 

[SpineyNorman]

And for most of the pandemic the only defence you get from Tories for their woeful mismanagement has been 'Corbyn would have been worse'

I get what gosub means though - if you discount everyone else then the only people who mention Corbyn are on the left.

Anyone who uses the term leftist should be shot in the face.

 

[SpookyFrank]

The BBC coverage of Johnson at the moment is starting to resemble the sort of spectacle we get when they smell blood.

Or they know all too well their long history of doing everything in their power to make Prime Minister Boris Johnson happen and are now hastily trying to establish some open water so they don't get dragged down with him.

 

[SpookyFrank]

Yes it is

He should never have appointed keir starmer to the shadow cabinet, making it harder for him to be elected leader

No but unlike Starmer the poor old fool actually believed in party unity.

 

[SpookyFrank]

Did Saudi prince text the PM about Newcastle United takeover?

They're just making these up now surely

 

[existentialist]

Did Saudi prince text the PM about Newcastle United takeover?

They're just making these up now surely

Someone will invent a Random Sleaze Question Headline generator.

 

[Humberto]

Nice to see the Tories on the back foot for a change. Given the treatment of Labour leaders past by the Tory establishment, Labour ought to make hay with it. They are too nice and too timid too often. I expect deflection/misdirection would be the government's response. Nevertheless Labour are shit if they can't damage the Tories over this and make some advances.

 

[BCBlues]

They dumped that 'could' softening when it came to the main TV news broadcast where the story got headline billing.

The BBC coverage of Johnson at the moment is starting to resemble the sort of spectacle we get when they smell blood.

The pics of Johnson that are being used have shifted from Bob The Builder sorting things out to that of a man who's lies after lies are catching up on him. From a local rag...

 

[gosub]

And for most of the pandemic the only defence you get from Tories for their woeful mismanagement has been 'Corbyn would have been worse'

I get what gosub means though - if you discount everyone else then the only people who mention Corbyn are on the left.

Anyone who uses the term leftist should be shot in the face.

Didn't see much 'you think this bad just imagine what it would be like under Corbyn,' Thank fuck. Sounds like you've been communicating with the equivalent of the Trump supporters that banged on about Hilary Clinton for 3 years.
Did have a fair few FB friends shouting out how it would been better under Corbyn......




Given the amount of energy jumping to a parallel universe would take, seems a waste. Get a defib to John Smith instead.

 

[teuchter]

The piles of bodies thing, whatever was actually said, will only really outrage those who already hate BJ. I don't see it's going to change the minds of people who think he's doing an ok or good job. They'll just think it's Boris being Boris. It's just like when everyone got excited that the Barnard Castle thing was going to topple the government and then it didn't.

 

[Humberto]

The piles of bodies thing, whatever was actually said, will only really outrage those who already hate BJ. I don't see it's going to change the minds of people who think he's doing an ok or good job. They'll just think it's Boris being Boris. It's just like when everyone got excited that the Barnard Castle thing was going to topple the government and then it didn't.

Yeah I share your pessimism, but the whole gamut: corruption, lies, incompetence etc is a massive target right now. Possibly.

 

[gosub]

The piles of bodies thing, whatever was actually said, will only really outrage those who already hate BJ. I don't see it's going to change the minds of people who think he's doing an ok or good job. They'll just think it's Boris being Boris. It's just like when everyone got excited that the Barnard Castle thing was going to topple the government and then it didn't.

Didn't think Politics: rocks in the pool was far off.

Cummings giving evidence to Joint Committee into Covid response next month, should be interesting. I do think Barnard's Castle did massive damage to the government
though.

 

[killer b]

Barnard Castle did a huge amount of damage - it saw Labour actually looking in contention in the polls literally a month or so after the government were regularly on 5% +- but they have an 80 seat majority. Did anyone actually think the government was going to fall over it? Does anyone think the government will fall over this?

 

[gosub]

Barnard Castle did a huge amount of damage - it saw Labour actually looking in contention in the polls literally a month or so after the government were regularly on 5% +- but they have an 80 seat majority. Did anyone actually think the government was going to fall over it? Does anyone think the government will fall over this?

Its all cumulative. Personally no, I didn't think the government would fall last Spring, but I think Cummings had less faith (hence the trip).

 

[stdP]

I wasn't quite sure whether I should put this in the monster twat thread, but with DC increasingly slipping from the public consciousness I thought this monster twat thread deserved a wee bump.

‘Strategic lies’: deliberate untruths used as a political tactic – new study

A lie is halfway around the world before the truth gets its trousers on.

theconversation.com

Probably nothing in there the urban commenterati haven't already mentioned or aren't aware of already but an interesting read nonetheless.

 

[teqniq]

Compare and contrast:

To govern is to blog | Robert Hutton | The Critic Magazine

Is he still going? At the time of writing, Dominic Cummings was six days into a Twitter thread about the government’s handling of Covid. It’s presumably a warm-up for his appearance before Parliament…

thecritic.co.uk

Cummings is indeed holding forth on Twitter on how things could have been different re: Covid if only there had been competent people in charge. Wednesday may prove to be interesting.

I tried posting the text of the times article but it's too long I'm afraid. It's essentially a puff piece.

The Times & The Sunday Times

News and opinion from The Times & The Sunday Times

www.thetimes.co.uk

 

[gosub]

Compare and contrast:

To govern is to blog | Robert Hutton | The Critic Magazine

Is he still going? At the time of writing, Dominic Cummings was six days into a Twitter thread about the government’s handling of Covid. It’s presumably a warm-up for his appearance before Parliament…

thecritic.co.uk

Cummings is indeed holding forth on Twitter on how things could have been different re: Covid if only there had been competent people in charge. Wednesday may prove to be interesting.

I tried posting the text of the times article but it's too long I'm afraid. It's essentially a puff piece.

The Times & The Sunday Times

News and opinion from The Times & The Sunday Times

www.thetimes.co.uk

He was one of the people in charge. Is he saying it only went to pot after he caught covid and dragged his infectous self to Durham or is he coming clean that a First in Ancient and Modern History doesn't necessarily bring competence to a public health crisis

 

[stavros]

things could have been different re: Covid if only there had been competent people in charge. [/URL]

The blind leading the blind?

 

[elbows]

 

[elbows]

I like it when shits damage eachother, and obviously I have an obsession with pandemic detail. But I need him to have more revelations to shout about in parliament than those he's been talking about on twitter recently. Because although there is some new detail such as figures for how many deaths their original plan was thought to lead to by the government themselves, he hasnt really said anything that adds significantly to the pandemic government picture of March 2020 that we could already ascertain at the time or shortly thereafter.

 

[brogdale]

So, why did he splurge the 'dirt' all over twitter before the actual gig?

 

[Bahnhof Strasse]

I like it when shits damage eachother, and obviously I have an obsession with pandemic detail. But I need him to have more revelations to shout about in parliament than those he's been talking about on twitter recently. Because although there is some new detail such as figures for how many deaths their original plan was thought to lead to by the government themselves, he hasnt really said anything that adds significantly to the pandemic government picture of March 2020 that we could already ascertain at the time or shortly thereafter.

Yep, this won't damage Johnson at all in the eyes of those who support him. And if Johnson was making these choices and they were so fucking terrible, what was Cumface doing, seeing as he was Johnson's #1 strategic advisor...

 

[maomao]

What time's he on then? Could be good for a laugh though I won't get my hopes up.

 

[MrSki]

What time's he on then? Could be good for a laugh though I won't get my hopes up.

Started at half nine.

 

[maomao]

Started at half nine.

Didn't know parliament started that early.

 

[Bahnhof Strasse]

People who are lying blink a lot.

 

[maomao]

People who are lying blink a lot.

His are going like a fucking jackhammer.

 

[maomao]

He's stopped himself talking in the past tense and corrected to the present twice while talking about his job in government.

 

[two sheds]

He clearly feels that all the accounts of gross incompetence at the time were just not believable until he backs them up. Now that Honest Dom gives his version there'll be a groundswell of demonstrations against Johnson, and his days are immediately numbered

 

[glitch hiker]

He's like a really lame Vic and Bob character.

Can't see anything positive for us cummings out of this