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The Big Four railway companies: which was the best?

The Big Four railway companies: which was the best?


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I once had a piss out of the window of a 'Thumper' DMU on the line to Uckfield. :oops: :D

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I don't think I ever went on one of them! Weren't there some strange DEMU/EMU cobbled together hybrids called Tadpoles at one point?
 
And I'll raise you a Western.

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Typical Western Region - determined to carry on the GWR's independent spirit even when it meant designing diesel-hydraulic locos that were an expensive pain in the arse to maintain. Good-looking things, though. :cool:
 
And I'll raise you a Western.

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Typical Western Region - determined to carry on the GWR's independent spirit even when it meant designing diesel-hydraulic locos that were an expensive pain in the arse to maintain. Good-looking things, though. :cool:

Ewwww...horrible thing. With it's dodgy, accident-causing battery case doors :mad:
 
Tadpoles:

When in 1964 the time came for the Southern Region to replace steam hauled stock on the Reading to Tonbridge service the SR turned to its tradition of recycling rolling stock. Three Hastings 6S (class 201) DEMU units were disbanded releasing six motor brake second saloons and six trailer open seconds which were then mated to adapted driving trailers from BR design 2EPB units to form six 3R (R for Reading/Redhill) class 206 DEMU units. The EPB driving trailers had three compartments in their non driving end converted into a luggage compartment.

Because of the visible difference between the narrow width of the ex-Hastings stock and the standard width of the ex-EPB trailer these units rapidly became nicknamed "Tadpoles", a name which stuck throughout their working life. The remaining passenger accommodation in the EPB trailer was usually locked out of use.

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From here
 
Bulleid's handiwork again ;)



Strangely staggered upper and lower compartments - there's a cutaway illustration on a preservation site for the two surviving driving coaches.

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Wow. That is quite an ingenious section. Looks like you'd have to walk through the lower compartment to get to/from the upper one if the plaform was on the side that the drawing is viewed from, though. I can see how that would cause problems with loading times.

Looks pretty cool inside though:

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Pah to all you antiquarians! It's surely a toss up between Virgin or First Great Western. Both offer a service that's second to none. Not so much travelling, but voyaging. The hermetically sealed air conditioned environment, the over bright lighting, the cramped seating, the piss-poor punctuality and reliability all combine to create a romance, neigh majesty, that is often overlooked in this workaday world.

Love it! Good post !
 
Well - as the great S E Parkhouse* would say "you have made all made good points"

What a seam of controversy we have raised

The Southern 4DD stock were very claustrophobic , hot and prone to unfortunate social events worse than fart smells !

That beast of a 4SUB with headcode 6 (empties to Clapham Yard) bring back the memories - I once drove one as an empty train and struggled to get 70mph - but a real basic workhorse with true character - too much brake application too early and you used the air up quicker than the compressors could recharge so thats how some of them ended up running out of railway at W H Smiths in Victoria. Proper battleship trains they were - along with the much missed 501 sets on the North London Line and the DC.

Not just totally GWR focused see ....


*Parkhouse was the Chief Operating Officer after 1948 - you can see him in the BTF film "Train Time" (highly recccomended)
 
PS Parkhouse was an LNWR / LMS man

(he left the Western to get on with it - knew where his priorities were in pulling up standards on the LNER)
 
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The Great Man - S E Parkhouse on the morning conference at 222 Marylebone Road

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A proper x GWR passenger train (the Up Cornish Riveria)

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A vital train of foodstuffs being rushed to the London markets - broccoli in open wagons

Rememer this is 1952 !
 
- too much brake application too early and you used the air up quicker than the compressors could recharge so thats how some of them ended up running out of railway at W H Smiths in Victoria.

I thought the compressors recharge brakes to the "off" position - ie fail safe - so wouldn't that mean the train would stop too soon rather than in WH Smiths?


ETA: Oh I think I see what you mean- the drivers would be reluctant to use the brakes too early and end up using them too late instead.
 
4 SUB units didnt have the compressor power of other units - let alone a dual reserve reservoir system that other more modern units had like the 4EPB that followed - main brake pipe was the only thing you had - so you could drain the brakes early - still be moving - with no reserve air to stop ! :eek:
 
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