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Having a shit brief is pretty common in my experience though I appreciate that there is artistic license at play here - if you ever watch Holby City it always makes me laugh that there is always a theatre free and you never wait for anything which if you've ever had surgery you know is nonsense. The counselling would depend on lots of factors - how good they are, whether it was the right time etc.

I'm not saying this completely reflects reality and the script may be a shit script but it read to me like you wanted Helen to get a grip and that's not a fair perspective. If that isn't what you meant then obvious apologies.
 
I think it's only natural to want Helen to get a grip, if this were real life and I knew her I'd be wanting her to get a grip.

I don't think that has any real bearing on what she does do.
 
I think it is that 1) she tried to leave him and 2) she stabbed him and yet she hasn't tried at all to explain to anyone why she did these things. That and the fact that if she doesn't explain she is going to lose her two kids and face prison which seem to me to be motivating factors. But anyhow, as you mention there are a lot of things going on here, some of which will be hard to convey on radio.
 
Isn't the solicitor meant to be the person who deals primarily with the accused? I thought the barrister is the one who sweeps in later and does all the courtroom drama.

"Wasn't the whole point of Pat was that she was a strong independent self-sufficient sensible counterpoint to some of the more dependent ladies in the shire?" They are ALL dependent ladies.

Women in Ambridge are only allowed to be strong within very closely proscribed limits, ie marriage. They can never leave Ambridge - or if they do, like Brenda, then they get involved with wrong 'uns. They can have an education but then THEY HAVE TO COME BACK. (Pip/Alice), they get jilted at the altar but they come back (Kirsty). The only one who has been allowed to escape is Debbie, and that's just presumably because of Tamsin Grieg's other commitments. Single women sink without trace, whilst still in the village. (Kathy).

Pat's guiltridden wailing is her punishment for having the reputation of being strong etc.
 
So, the baby has a name. Perhaps he will have two names.

Wonder how soon Rob will want to return to work in the shop?
 
story said:
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Whilst trying to find out, I've incidentally found this blog, which appears to be a blow-by-blow rerun of every Archer's episode. Oddness.
The Ha Archers
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Thanks for this. Made me laugh. I missed a couple of weeks a while back and this was just what I needed.

I missed the bit where Ian changed his view from Helen being 'a piece of work' to being an object of compassion. Was that broadcast or are we just meant to infer it? I've missed all the eps where anyone came to recognise that she was being gaslighted (or should that be gaslit?).
 
bluescreen said:
Thanks for this. Made me laugh. I missed a couple of weeks a while back and this was just what I needed.

I missed the bit where Ian changed his view from Helen being 'a piece of work' to being an object of compassion. Was that broadcast or are we just meant to infer it? I've missed all the eps where anyone came to recognise that she was being gaslighted (or should that be gaslit?).
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Same here. I thought that Ian just didn't like Rob and so must like Helen again because she stabbed the bastard ;)
 
So can anyone give me a rough run-down of how anyone - even Pat - came to recognise that there might be a motive other than purely hormonal that drove Helen to stab her doting husband? Was it all down to Kirsty? Did anyone start, painfully, to piece things together? And was it excruciating to listen to?
 
wiskey said:
What makes you think that's happened at all?
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Heh, Pat, Tony and Johnny seem to be a bit anti-Rob, tbh. Bit of a turn-up for the books as far as Pat's concerned, at least. And Ian said something sympathetic the other day, which made me think I'd missed a huge chunk of infodump.

Btw, loved (the drama of) Rob's suggestion a while back that Kirsty had a dyke thing for Helen.

And no, the Adrian Beal site doesn't seem to have any downloads available after 8 May. I'm loving Ha Archers but it doesn't answer all my questions. (I know, I shouldn't go abroad!)
 
Does anybody watch Machair by the way? It's a Gaelic sort of tv version of the Archers - equally bad and equally compelling. :thumbs:
 
two sheds said:
Does anybody watch Machair by the way? It's a Gaelic sort of tv version of the Archers - equally bad and equally compelling. :thumbs:
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My sister and BIL are fans. Was in the Outer Hebrides (where it was filmed) with them a few years ago, and they were pointing out people who'd been in it in cafes and stuff.
 
Sue said:
My sister and BIL are fans. Was in the Outer Hebrides (where it was filmed) with them a few years ago, and they were pointing out people who'd been in it in cafes and stuff.
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Ooooh impressed did you get their autographs did you did you?

I'd love to use it to learn a bit of Gaelic but it all washes over me unfortunately.
 
two sheds said:
Ooooh impressed did you get their autographs did you did you?

I'd love to use it to learn a bit of Gaelic but it all washes over me unfortunately.
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No... Was all a long time ago I guess and most of them have returned to whatever jobs they were doing before it was on so would be a bit strange.
 
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