*The Archers thread

[story]

And why in fuck does no one go get Jess and ask her to speak as a witness?

 

[belboid]

And why in fuck does no one go get Jess and ask her to speak as a witness?

I'm not sure anyone but Helen is aware of the fact that Helen spoke to her. I'm not entirely sure her evidence would be admissible either

 

[story]

I'm not sure anyone but Helen is aware of the fact that Helen spoke to her. I'm not entirely sure her evidence would be admissible either

Well okay, not a witness, and I don't know how these things work, but if I was defending a woman for attacking her husband and I suspected that abuse may have been a factor, I might consider asking his ex wife about his character, if only to help me piece together the new wife's story.

 

[story]

I'm not sure anyone but Helen is aware of the fact that Helen spoke to her. I'm not entirely sure her evidence would be admissible either

And I know that the barrister isn't allowed to talk to the pal (what's her name? The one who gave Helen the phone) but I think Helen told her that she'd spoken with Jess. If I was that friend, I may mention along the way, you know, just in passing, to someone or other, like perhaps my ex who happens to be Helen's brother, that Helen had told me that she'd spoken with Jess and that Jess had said that Rob was an abusive prick.

 

[trashpony]

I have stopped listening for the fist time in 30 years. I'm so fed up of characters just behaving totally out of character. The writing feels really self-indulgent. And why does Miranda sound like Ursula?!

 

[weltweit]

I have stopped listening for the fist time in 30 years. .. ..

Interesting, I have started listening for the first time in 50 years

 

[red & green]

Helen had better pull it together or she's going down

 

[belboid]

And I know that the barrister isn't allowed to talk to the pal (what's her name? The one who gave Helen the phone) but I think Helen told her that she'd spoken with Jess. If I was that friend, I may mention along the way, you know, just in passing, to someone or other, like perhaps my ex who happens to be Helen's brother, that Helen had told me that she'd spoken with Jess and that Jess had said that Rob was an abusive prick.

did Helen tell Kirsty tho? I can't recall. And, technically, I don't think Rob's previous character can be brought into the trial.

 

[red & green]

Similar fact evidence ?

 

[belboid]

This isn't Canada

 

[two sheds]

Interesting, I have started listening for the first time in 50 years

You just wait, after 30 years the story line starts grating on you.

 

[story]

did Helen tell Kirsty tho? I can't recall. And, technically, I don't think Rob's previous character can be brought into the trial.

Oh... yeah, maybe she didn't. I seem to remember that she told someone she'd seen Jess.

It was Kirsty who suggested to Helen that she seek out Jess, though, wasn't it? So Jess is/ought to be in her mind at least.

Whilst trying to find out, I've incidentally found this blog, which appears to be a blow-by-blow rerun of every Archer's episode. Oddness.
The Ha Archers

 

[a_chap]

But for chrissake why won't Helen pull herself together. She keeps whining on about how the only thing that matters is Henry, but she can't seem to grasp that if she doesn't stand up and fight her corner, she'll lose Henry. I can't stand this martyred fragility bullshit. She's not fragile at all. She's been abused, but she's survived a heap of nastiness in the past and made decisions and run a business. Being in custody gives her the chance for some perspective. I keep shouting at the radio that she should just get a grip.

And her mother's sudden emotional incapacity is also infuriating.

I think you're making my point for me.

 

[belboid]

Oh... yeah, maybe she didn't. I seem to remember that she told someone she'd seen Jess.

It was Kirsty who suggested to Helen that she seek out Jess, though, wasn't it? So Jess is/ought to be in her mind at least.

Whilst trying to find out, I've incidentally found this blog, which appears to be a blow-by-blow rerun of every Archer's episode. Oddness.
The Ha Archers

Blimey that's detailed - more so than the site I normally use - The Archers

Helen deffo told Kirsty she was meeting, Jess, but I cant recall if she told her about the outcome of the meeting

 

[red & green]

This isn't Canada

Can be admitted if goes to proof of guilt unless likely to result in injustice but won't press the point - google is your friend

 

[weltweit]

If you have become a prosecution witness and yet they decide not to call you to testify, can the defence call you?

 

[belboid]

google is your friend

It's not!

I have asked my lawyer friend tho

 

[red & green]

Question is does rob have previous

 

[belboid]

Can be admitted if goes to proof of guilt unless likely to result in injustice but won't press the point - google is your friend

right you are!

http://www.legislation.gov.uk/ukpga/2003/44/section/103

 

[TikkiB]

I have stopped listening for the fist time in 30 years. I'm so fed up of characters just behaving totally out of character. The writing feels really self-indulgent. And why does Miranda sound like Ursula?!

I thought she sounded like Hazel Woolley.

I really wish the BBC would put all the old episodes back online like they've done with Desert Island Discs - I keep trying to stop listening but I NEED something talk based to listen to while I'm chopping vegetables and feeding the dog, but the ongoing nonsense is doing my head in. It's bad enough the complete disregard for characters but now they seem to be ignoring the reality of legal procedures etc - would Pat really have been so very stupid to give a statement before talking to Helen's legal team? I know it's not a documentary but this all goes back to the ridiculous melodramatic spin they've put on the domestic abuse story. How dare they give out advice line info for people who may have been affected by DA, then treat the storyline so cavalierly? It's almost like they don't give a fuck about DA.

 

[weltweit]

While there may be inaccuracies it is this Rob & Helen story that has cemented my listening. When it is just Borsetshire folk I may have the radio on but I often don't take in what happens. Now I am making sure I catch it or listening to the iPlayer catchup.

 

[two sheds]

I thought she sounded like Hazel Woolley.

I really wish the BBC would put all the old episodes back online like they've done with Desert Island Discs - I keep trying to stop listening but I NEED something talk based to listen to while I'm chopping vegetables and feeding the dog, but the ongoing nonsense is doing my head in.

Was thinking of starting a thread on R4 Extra BBC Radio - Programmes categorised as Drama, Available now, there's some really interesting drama on at the moment. Best start from the earliest ones if you're interested, they're only on for a limited time.

 

[belboid]

Bloody hell, but this court hearing is appallingly written and acted. But thank fuck Helen has seen some sense, at least.

 

[weltweit]

Bloody hell, but this court hearing is appallingly written and acted.

How is it appalling?

But thank fuck Helen has seen some sense, at least.

Hopefully she will start telling her legal team the truth so they have something to use to put the case !

 

[belboid]

How is it appalling?

that judge/magistrate/whatever - sounded like she was in a school play

 

[a_chap]

After saying I was done with The Archers it felt wierd not having listened this evening so I listened to tonight's episode on the BBC web site.

What absolute shite acting. Wooden. Amateur. Piss poor.

 

[Shirl]

While there may be inaccuracies it is this Rob & Helen story that has cemented my listening. When it is just Borsetshire folk I may have the radio on but I often don't take in what happens. Now I am making sure I catch it or listening to the iPlayer catchup.

I don't listen to the Archers for excitement. So far as I'm concerned it's the point of the Archers that nothing much happens. This latest shenanigans is getting on my nerves

 

[belboid]

ooh, I've made it onto The Archers website. Which is a bit surprising after they threatened to ban me for 'threatening to kill' SO'C

 

[Greebo]

Nice one Peggy - talking some backbone into Helen!

 

[story]

Catching up on the omnibus..

If Helen isn't allowed to see Henry because she might interfere with the witness, why the fuck is Rob allowed to talk to him and bend his head? His "parental" rights are more powerful than Helen's? Ha less likely than she is to interfere with the witness? That child would be placed with the grandparents. It makes no fucking sense.

It's as if Helen is in glorious isolation inside. I'm not expecting a Prisoner Cell Block H side story, but there's been absolutely no mention at all of any single thing about the food, the people, any of the rules, the screws, nothing. I can't believe that a woman in Helen's position wouldn't be given all kinds of advice, spurious or otherwise, by other inmates that she might want to check with her brief. Some false hope, some rumour of possible loopholes for pregnant women.... Is she snobbish shunning and ignorant? She would surely have mentioned to Peggy something about the food, a cell mate. Nothing! It makes no fucking sense.

The bromance ménage a trois thing going on between Jim, Jazza and Tom.. Just.. Come on! It makes no fucking sense!

And what's with the tedious fucking bickering between Pip and Josh. Sibling rivalry was never this fucking dull. That don't make sense either.

But the whole thing has become so creaky and weird. It's like Acorn Antiques in Ambridge these days.