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I read the article, which was interesting enough, I am still listening to the Archers as it happens so according to the title I am not ignoring it in real life :)
 
I'm still open to abuse survivors, I'm still open to Helen ... the only thing driving me away from the Atchers is the dreadful acting and Pat.

I can't help but wonder why their 5 years study starts now though, and not 5 years ago.
 
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I'm still open to abuse survivors, I'm still open to Helen ... the only thing driving me away from the Atchers is the dreadful acting and Pat.

I can't help but wonder why their 5 years study starts now though, and not 5 years ago.
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Could be for a variety of reasons but lack of co-operation from other agencies and lack of funding would be my guess.
 
It's a good article but I don't think that's why listeners are switching off. They're switching off because they're fed up of stupid writing (Pat giving a statement without talking to Anna, Henry not being assigned a social worker, the farm shop collapsing because Rob - a paid employee - is unable to work, etc etc). And, speaking personally, I'm fucking furious that Helen stabbed Rob. I think it sends an absolutely shitty message to abuse victims that there is no way out unless you commit physical violence. And legal battles and courtroom dramas are not what the Archers is about.

But I do agree with what she's saying. And I suspect their 5 year study has taken a while to get the funding sorted. Lots of agencies like WA relied on State funding so have had to fundamentally change their way of working to adapt to the financial rug being pulled out from under them.
 
Does anyone have any insight as to why Helen is not opening up to her Lawyer? It seems almost as if she has not grasped the seriousness of her situation, excepting her desire to keep Henry and the baby away from Rob.

Her pleading not guilty seemed as if she had turned a corner, but now she is back not talking to her lawyer, when there is so much to say!?

The script writers must have something in mind with this but I can't see what.
 
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I find it all really odd, I can't see how she's failed to grasp the severity of the situation tbh, and surely she's spoken to someone inside - another prisoner, a screw, some sort of mh worker, a support worker.... Everyone is going to say the same thing, get your story straight with your brief.

If I had anything to do with Helen I'd be getting a psychological assessment done ASAP to see if she's in some sort of psychosis. Or beating her round the head out of frustration (not very appropriate but...).

And what's happening to Rob and Henry? I just think that the storyline is too big and too preposterous, it's a whole show in itself, and yet they have to fit in all the other characters and some token talk about cows meaning we don't hear what's going on.
 
tbh I can understand Helen not grasping the severity - I know someone who's been abused way more than the Helen storyline over years, and she's lost the ability to focus on what she needs to do. It's infuriating if you're trying to get her to face up to it all, particularly for her partner now.
 
I get that it's confusing and lines are drawn but they become arbitrary... But by the time you are banged up for murder wouldn't you find some clarity?
 
You'd imagine so, but at that point you'd be under intense stress and I think the mind just tries to deflect from what's causing you pain - so anything to do with the abuse.
 
Catching up with the omnibus...

Well at least we now know why Helen doesn't often ask her brief any questions: her answer seems to be "I don't know...!" whenever she does ask. Why doesn't she have a single scooby about procedures for delivering a child in custody. She didn't bother finding out yet?

And Peggy Archer has the heart of a woman half her age.... so we have to deal with her sanctimony for another half century. By the way, have we ever heard her crack a joke or laugh at anyone else's joshing?

Tom Archer seem to have inherited many of her characteristics and personality traits.

Bridge Farm is going under, and there's not one single person in the entire county who could do with a bit of extra work... ?

And fuck off with the silage tutorials, if you please.

Pat shoe-horning her lamentation into as many conversational niches as she can find. When did she become such a martyr? Or maybe this is her trying to assuage her terrible guilt at not stepping in when she saw her daughter being swallowed whole by Rob.

Wasn't the whole point of Pat was that she was a strong independent self-sufficient sensible counterpoint to some of the more dependent ladies in the shire?

Am expected to believe that Joe Grundy doesn't know who Gandalf is? He doesn't live in the fifteenth century ffs, even if he is portrayed as some kind of serf.

And Brian doesn't seem to know who Gandalf is either....

Christ! but Tony asks some stupid questions though. "Why was my Dad drinking during my birth, and why do we have to abide by prison rules? It makes no sense!!!!!"

Many mentions of Peggy's long life and good health and delayed demise and great age and good health and outliving the lot of them..... She's gonna cark it any minute now, isn't she.

How much is Anna the attorney charging to just hang out with Helen all afternoon?

And why the blithering fuck is Helen still being so fucking stubborn about talking about Rob? I don't believe that she's still under his influence. The spell was broken, she declared him a Monster and was in the act of leaving him when all this happened.

And how Hollywood corny was that cliffhanger? "I can't talk about this now, Anna.... You have to! No, I can't.... My waters have broken.....!!!!!"
 
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And why the blithering fuck is Helen still being so fucking stubborn about talking about Rob? I don't believe that she's still under his influence. The spell was broken, she declared him a Monster and was in the act of leaving him when all this happened.

And how Hollywood corny was that cliffhanger? "I can't talk about this now, Anna.... You have to! No, I can't.... My waters have broken.....!!!!!"
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This bit in spades.
Helen better start dishing the dirt before her court appearance or it will be jail for her!
 
Do you have any idea how hard it is to talk about DV? How stupid you feel, how ashamed, how frightened you are of what will happen when you open the floodgate, how difficult it is to decide what you have for your breakfast because every decision previously has had to be weighed up and risk assessed or has been taken away from you, never mind big decisions like your future. He's been trying to convince everyone she's mad and now she's stabbed him and she does look mad and who would believe her anyway because she's stupid and a fuck up. You don't just snap out of abuse, it can take years to get over it. Recognising you are being abused is the very first step to moving on. It really isn't as simple as you all seem to think.
 
Well of course I know that. But the script concertina'd and expedited so much of the DV that I don't really understand why they're dragging out the denouement so far.
 
Ursula is such a nasty piece of work, I can see who Rob got some of his personality from. :eek:

Still, nice one Peggy being so supportive. I wish Pat would rediscover her backbone.
 
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Well of course I know that. But the script concertina'd and expedited so much of the DV that I don't really understand why they're dragging out the denouement so far.
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Also, didn't Helen have some counselling? What happened with that?

And if Anna the Attorney is a specialist in DV, then presumably she knows something about how to encourage her client to start divulging the necessaries. She must suspect DV here, so why isn't she enabling or supporting Helen's de-brainwashing?

purenarcotic , it just doesn't ring true for me: the procedures, I mean. Would her brief really be so backwards in this situation?
 
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