The Anti-Imperialism of Fools - a General thread

[Pickman's model]

sir phildwyer and friends recently

 

[Idris2002]

"And lo, it came to pass that in the frozen land of Nador, they were force to eat phildwyer and his "rational proof of God's existence" thread. And there was much rejoicing"

 

[phildwyer]

DWYER, loving the anti-islamophobe stance and everything, but were you not just the other telling us all how the Islamic mind is psychologically amenable to forced conversion (and an inherent part of traditional Islamic culture of course) while us Westerners wouldn't grasp tge concept at all? Is that not a bit islamophobic while we're kicking it about?

How's it Islamophobic?

It's actually a compliment. What appears to happen is that people are originally converted by force, but after living as a Muslim for a while they come to see it as a beneficial faith and therefore continue in it of their own volition. It's not difficult to see how this would happen--presumably giving up pork and alcohol alone would make a massive difference for many.

This only happens in Islam btw...

 

[Pickman's model]

How's it Islamophobic?

It's actually a compliment. What appears to happen is that people are originally converted by force, but after living as a Muslim for a while they come to see it as a beneficial faith and therefore continue in it of their own volition. It's not difficult to see how this would happen--presumably giving up pork and alcohol alone would make a massive difference for many.

This only happens in Islam btw...

apart from in xianity, as per your thread about spain

 

[SpackleFrog]

How's it Islamophobic?

It's actually a compliment. What appears to happen is that people are originally converted by force, but after living as a Muslim for a while they come to see it as a beneficial faith and therefore continue in it of their own volition. It's not difficult to see how this would happen--presumably giving up pork and alcohol alone would make a massive difference for many.

This only happens in Islam btw...

Muslims everywhere, REJOICE! DWYER has seen fit to compliment you.

I am concerned I've found a flaw in your logic though - well, I'm sure I haven't, you are a genius - BUT some Hindu's don't drink OR eat meat. Could the same thing not apply to Hindu's as well?

 

[phildwyer]

Muslims everywhere, REJOICE! DWYER has seen fit to compliment you.

I am concerned I've found a flaw in your logic though - well, I'm sure I haven't, you are a genius - BUT some Hindu's don't drink OR eat meat. Could the same thing not apply to Hindu's as well?

No it could not.

 

[Pickman's model]

Muslims everywhere, REJOICE! DWYER has seen fit to compliment you.

I am concerned I've found a flaw in your logic though - well, I'm sure I haven't, you are a genius - BUT some Hindu's don't drink OR eat meat. Could the same thing not apply to Hindu's as well?

don't fuss about his logick, he's lying again as per my post #154

 

[FridgeMagnet]

Plenty of Muslims drink.

 

[Pickman's model]

Plenty of Muslims drink.

cue phildwyer saying they can't be proper muslims

being as he's the arbiter of who's muslim

 

[J Ed]

This might sound really weird, and I wouldn't believe it if someone else told me that it happened to them but today at a corporate induction thing for a bank I'm doing temp envelope stuffing at I met an Angolan supporter of North Korea who thinks that the North Korean leadership is great and that all Western reporting of the country is lies.

 

[J Ed]

Plenty of Muslims drink.

No, the takfiri contingent on urban reckon they aren't Muslim and if you think that they are then you're an Islamophobe or something

 

[Greebo]

No, the takfiri contingent on urban reckon they aren't Muslim and if you think that they are then you're an Islamophobe or something

Yebbut, only Allah can judge who's really a Muslim no matter how many rules (widely believed to be non negotiable) they bend or break.

 

[J Ed]

Yebbut, only Allah can judge who's really a Muslim no matter how many rules (widely believed to be non negotiable) they bend or break.

Allah, phildwyer and quidquo.

 

[Greebo]

Allah, phildwyer and quidquo.

Perhaps all three have a similar size of ego? BTW quiquaquo, surely? Even I can spell it and I'm halfway pissed.

 

[DotCommunist]

Allah, phildwyer and quidquo.

one hand washes the other

 

[frogwoman]

Yebbut, only Allah can judge who's really a Muslim no matter how many rules (widely believed to be non negotiable) they bend or break.

Theres loads of websites out there ive seen saying shia arent real muslims, and most of them aren't 'jihadi' (not openly anyway)/

 

[phildwyer]

Yebbut, only Allah can judge who's really a Muslim no matter how many rules (widely believed to be non negotiable) they bend or break.

Only the Shahada is de rigeur.

Absolutely NOTHING else.

 

[quiquaquo]

Somewhat ironic that the Islamophobic wannabe takfiris on here accuse me of all people of being takfiri.

As always the stench of racism arises when the subject turns to anything to do with Islam and Muslims.

 

[DotCommunist]

nobody here hates muslims. Except maybe JHE. But other than him, nobody hates muslims.

 

[quiquaquo]

No idea who JHE is but just look above for the vicious crap from the usual suspects.

 

[Flavour]

As always the stench of racism arises when the subject turns to anything to do with Islam and Muslims.

wanna back that up at all?

 

[Ole]

Theres loads of websites out there ive seen saying shia arent real muslims, and most of them aren't 'jihadi' (not openly anyway)/

That belief is quite ordinary among Sunni Muslims isn't it?

Other much smaller groups like the Ahmadiyya Muslims face much more open hostility.

 

[CNT36]

Angleton did suspect him though, long before the Brits. The public school types in MI5 couldn't believe that one of their own might be a traitor.

The Russians also had trouble believing it which is why despite gathering a shit tonne of intelligence he was not as effective as people on here seem to think.

 

[phildwyer]

The Russians also had trouble believing it which is why despite gathering a shit tonne of intelligence he was not as effective as people on here seem to think.

They were right not to believe him at the end, when he turned triple agent.

As to his effectiveness, he was certainly the Nemesis of Zogism.

 

[SpackleFrog]

nobody here hates muslims. Except maybe JHE. But other than him, nobody hates muslims.

Dwyer has some questionable ideas about Muslims to be fair. Although he doesn't hate them afaics.

 

[SpackleFrog]

This might sound really weird, and I wouldn't believe it if someone else told me that it happened to them but today at a corporate induction thing for a bank I'm doing temp envelope stuffing at I met an Angolan supporter of North Korea who thinks that the North Korean leadership is great and that all Western reporting of the country is lies.

There's quite a legacy of Stalinism in Angola.

 

[likesfish]

Have we done the Hagoraphy of Gaddaffi there’s a post that regularly appears how everything was free in Libya and Gadaffi showered its citizens with cash the west only went after him because he wasn’t going to use dollars for oil anymore.

Rather than being a tyrant who damm well earned his fate and if half of what had been written in the green book had been remotely true Libya wouldn’t have collapsed

 

[Humberto]

So turn it it into a global no-go-zone of mafia cunts?

 

[Humberto]

That's worse, and the same old story.

 

[Humberto]

Evil liberalism pretty much. Sorry, but there it is.