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Steel Icarus
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Oh give over. "Anthony Joshua gives a stunning statement". No, Ngannou's found out what top level heavyweight boxers do when they've trained properly.
D'wards
IT'S YOUR DECISION DANIEL
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Numbers
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Lovely selection of shots.
Throbbing Angel
this is no longer a place of honour
Indeed!
Mumbles274
running from law and the press and the parents
I've jsut seen that there is a bare knuckle fighting contest, the BKFC.. Now I find combat sports interesting, espiclally boxing.. But it's blown my mind a bit that there is legit bare knuckle fighting. Wow.. It's brutal, more so than any other combat sport I've seen
Numbers
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Nuts isn’t it, been going some time.
The younger brother of one of my best mates growing up died on the knuckle circuit, not a glam show like BKFC but on the proper underground scene.
Mumbles274
running from law and the press and the parents
Yeah, that shit is scary
Sweet FA
✪ Three rounds Lord, in my .44 ✪
Been down a rabbit hole of 70s/80s boxing writing for the last couple of weeks.
Some excellent pieces about Randall Cobb's utterly brutal Larry Holmes fight in '82 from Pete Dexter (a great writer aside from the boxing articles). The genesis of their friendship is a brutal story in itself.*
In November 1982, Philadelphia Daily News columnist Pete Dexter went to Houston to watch his friend Randall "Tex" Cobb fight Larry Holmes for boxing's heavyweight championship.
deadspin.com
deadspin.com
deadspin.com
(The last article links to the whole fight. Christ, the last few rounds are a difficult watch).
*
'...referring to the column that almost got him killed. Published December 9, 1981 in the Philadelphia Daily News, and running under the headline, "In Tasker, It's About to Stop," Dexter's intent was to applaud community efforts to stop the spread of drug dealing in Grays Ferry, a blue-collar, Irish Catholic neighborhood rife with racial clashes, a lot of dope, and a lot of hate.
"A couple of weeks ago, a kid named Buddy Lego was found dead in Cobbs Creek," wrote Dexter. "It was a Sunday afternoon. He was from the neighborhood, a good athlete, a nice kid. Stoned all the time. The kind of kid you think you could have saved."
The kid's mother called Dexter, nearly hysterical. How, she cried, could he write that her dead son was a drug user? Lego's brother, Tommy, the night bartender at Dougherty's, was also on the phone, screaming at the then-38-year-old columnist, demanding a retraction.
"So I tell him I'll come down to the bar," Dexter recalls. "We can talk about it, but no, I say, I'm not doing a retraction. My source was good. So I go into the bar a few days later, thinking I'd calm things down. It's about eight at night. I say, ‘Get me a beer and we'll talk.' Then somebody hits me from the right side, sheared off a bunch of teeth. Then I get hit again. So I get out of there."
Dexter went straight to the home of his buddy, famous fighter Randall "Tex" Cobb, who was hosting a party. (Less than a year later, the 6-foot-3, 225-pound Cobb, known for having one of the greatest chins of all time, fought 15 rounds at the Houston Astrodome and lost the heavyweight championship to Larry Holmes.)
"So I tell him what happened, and I'm kind of fuzzy on this, but I think Randall says, ‘Well, let's go straighten this out,' " recalls Dexter. "So he and a few others come back with me. We get there and the same three or four guys are there at the bar. I say to them, There will be no sucker punches now.'
"Randall says, ‘What do you want to do now?' And I didn't know. If only I'd given it a little thought. It was a moment of complete futility. No one was listening. It was as if I'd killed the guy's brother. So this little fat guy gets up, goes outside for something, and the next thing I know the room is filled up—maybe 30 guys. They got bats and tire irons, and this is where Randall supposedly said, ‘I hope this is the local softball team.'
"We started heading out the door," he goes on. "Randall and I were the last ones out. It's freezing—rain and sleet on the streets. Randall got hit with a crowbar. I ran toward the guy who did it. I wanted to bite that fat fucker's face. And then the lights went out. Randall said I was on the ground getting hit with a bat and pool stick. I don't know why I didn't end up dead that night."
Barely conscious, it was Cobb (who, in his boxing career, was only knocked out once, by Dee Collier in 1985) who fended off the attackers and got Dexter to the hospital, likely saving his life.
At the hospital, things grew dire. "They were late getting the tube down my throat, and I didn't get the anesthesia," says Dexter. "I couldn't breathe. I woke up and they were screwing screws into my legs while I was still awake, but I couldn't talk. It was like an electric shock going through me."
Dexter suffered a broken pelvis, a cracked femur, nerve damage to his hands, a concussion, bleeding on the brain, and a spine fractured in two places. His scalp required 90 stitches.'
Any recommendations - Numbers, tonysingh, Steel Icarus?
Some excellent pieces about Randall Cobb's utterly brutal Larry Holmes fight in '82 from Pete Dexter (a great writer aside from the boxing articles). The genesis of their friendship is a brutal story in itself.*
In November 1982, Philadelphia Daily News columnist Pete Dexter went to Houston to watch his friend Randall "Tex" Cobb fight Larry Holmes for boxing's heavyweight championship.
Deadspin | The Night Tex Cobb Saved My Life
Deadspin | The Night Tex Cobb Saved My Life
deadspin.com
Deadspin | Cobb-Holmes '82: Spies, Thieves, And Other Serious Business
Deadspin | Cobb-Holmes '82: Spies, Thieves, And Other Serious Business
deadspin.com
Deadspin | Cobb-Holmes '82: A Violent Game Of Tag
Deadspin | Cobb-Holmes '82: A Violent Game Of Tag
deadspin.com
(The last article links to the whole fight. Christ, the last few rounds are a difficult watch).
*
'...referring to the column that almost got him killed. Published December 9, 1981 in the Philadelphia Daily News, and running under the headline, "In Tasker, It's About to Stop," Dexter's intent was to applaud community efforts to stop the spread of drug dealing in Grays Ferry, a blue-collar, Irish Catholic neighborhood rife with racial clashes, a lot of dope, and a lot of hate.
"A couple of weeks ago, a kid named Buddy Lego was found dead in Cobbs Creek," wrote Dexter. "It was a Sunday afternoon. He was from the neighborhood, a good athlete, a nice kid. Stoned all the time. The kind of kid you think you could have saved."
The kid's mother called Dexter, nearly hysterical. How, she cried, could he write that her dead son was a drug user? Lego's brother, Tommy, the night bartender at Dougherty's, was also on the phone, screaming at the then-38-year-old columnist, demanding a retraction.
"So I tell him I'll come down to the bar," Dexter recalls. "We can talk about it, but no, I say, I'm not doing a retraction. My source was good. So I go into the bar a few days later, thinking I'd calm things down. It's about eight at night. I say, ‘Get me a beer and we'll talk.' Then somebody hits me from the right side, sheared off a bunch of teeth. Then I get hit again. So I get out of there."
Dexter went straight to the home of his buddy, famous fighter Randall "Tex" Cobb, who was hosting a party. (Less than a year later, the 6-foot-3, 225-pound Cobb, known for having one of the greatest chins of all time, fought 15 rounds at the Houston Astrodome and lost the heavyweight championship to Larry Holmes.)
"So I tell him what happened, and I'm kind of fuzzy on this, but I think Randall says, ‘Well, let's go straighten this out,' " recalls Dexter. "So he and a few others come back with me. We get there and the same three or four guys are there at the bar. I say to them, There will be no sucker punches now.'
"Randall says, ‘What do you want to do now?' And I didn't know. If only I'd given it a little thought. It was a moment of complete futility. No one was listening. It was as if I'd killed the guy's brother. So this little fat guy gets up, goes outside for something, and the next thing I know the room is filled up—maybe 30 guys. They got bats and tire irons, and this is where Randall supposedly said, ‘I hope this is the local softball team.'
"We started heading out the door," he goes on. "Randall and I were the last ones out. It's freezing—rain and sleet on the streets. Randall got hit with a crowbar. I ran toward the guy who did it. I wanted to bite that fat fucker's face. And then the lights went out. Randall said I was on the ground getting hit with a bat and pool stick. I don't know why I didn't end up dead that night."
Barely conscious, it was Cobb (who, in his boxing career, was only knocked out once, by Dee Collier in 1985) who fended off the attackers and got Dexter to the hospital, likely saving his life.
At the hospital, things grew dire. "They were late getting the tube down my throat, and I didn't get the anesthesia," says Dexter. "I couldn't breathe. I woke up and they were screwing screws into my legs while I was still awake, but I couldn't talk. It was like an electric shock going through me."
Dexter suffered a broken pelvis, a cracked femur, nerve damage to his hands, a concussion, bleeding on the brain, and a spine fractured in two places. His scalp required 90 stitches.'
Any recommendations - Numbers, tonysingh, Steel Icarus?
Steel Icarus
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Wilf
Slouching towards Billingham
I spend all of Whittaker's fights wanting the other guy to win.
Numbers
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Cood lord yes, there’s dozens of great boxing books.
Give Kevin Mitchell’s ‘Jacobs Beach: The Mob, the Garden, and the Golden Age of Boxing’ a spin to start with.
I’ll post up some other personal fav’s (will have to strim the list down) over next cpl of days.
Steel Icarus
ersatz maven
Naoya Inoue won again - got knocked down for the first time in his career by Luis Nery but recovered quickly to take control and end it with a stunningly brutal 6th round knockout. Truly Inoue is a special fighter.
