The 7/7 Report

[zArk]

Unless you're simply perpetrating some infantile joke. This is a politics forum, not one for discussions of the lizards and their ways.

Why did you ask then? After i have stated many times that i didnt wish to expand upon the already ample links to the 'commander' idea i provided because this wasnt the suitable thread for doing so.
Because you are trying to stir things up as are a few others.
** as of this point i will not respond to any questions regarding the 'commander' theory or anything similar in this thread.

thanks so much

 

[ZAMB]

Not true, there are presumably videos of them on the bus and tube trains with hte explosives, even a good chance that the video captured the explosion itself. Just because we don't have the information does not mean it doens't exist. The conspiraloons seem to be running around claiming it has to be a governemnt action because, well, they all are.

Note points highlighted in above post. Why call someone names because we want a reasonable standard of proof about what happened and aren't ready to settle for 'don't knows' and 'maybes'? Surely this is all anyone wants.

 

[Fullyplumped]

Why did you ask then? After i have stated many times that i didnt wish to expand upon the already ample links to the 'commander' idea i provided because this wasnt the suitable thread for doing so.
Because you are trying to stir things up as are a few others.
** as of this point i will not respond to any questions regarding the 'commander' theory or anything similar in this thread.

thanks so much

I'm not trying to stir things up, and I was genuinely trying to give yo a chance to give a plain answer. I was hoping you would say who you thought had dome the deed. You didn't answer that, and instead went on about simulacrums and linked to a post that mentioned David Icke. I have no idea who the "commander" is; perhaps Brigadier Lethbridge -Stewart could come out of retirement and deal with him.

 

[zArk]

and linked to a post that mentioned David Icke.

hahaha, now i know you are on the wind up.

thanks so much
bye bye, bye

 

[Fullyplumped]

hahaha, now i know you are on the wind up. thanks so much
bye bye, bye

Well you did - you linked to a post that said we should listen to David Icke! Why are you getting upset about that?

 

[tarannau]

because you said "please, please";

Unfortunately the simulacra has become internalised to such an extent that beaurocracy [derived through the simulacra] and human action [simulacra subsumed] are interlinking with devasting effects.


If you are expecting me to say 'the illuminati' or summit like that, sorry you are mistaken.

False flag operations are being conducted internally to 'protect the nation'.

What, so you spend ten years studying sociology (more than double most who've done a BA and MA) and you can't even get close to spelling bureaucracy?

Aside from the fact all this commander and 'simulacrum' stuff is a ludicrous diversion, it's embarrassing seeing you use big words and getting all confused. Stick to distributing cut and paste hoaxes about mobile phones and assorted other nonsense and you'll be on safer ground.

 

[detective-boy]

Why call someone names because we want a reasonable standard of proof about what happened and aren't ready to settle for 'don't knows' and 'maybes'?

Because, like Prole and all the other nutters, you DON'T just ask for the release of the other available evidence, which is a perfectly reasonable thing to do. In fact, I have myself suggested that the narrative is ridiculously thin in supporting evidence, notwithstanding the restraints of an ongoing investigation.

You SUBSTITUTE ridiculous alternative theories based on the assumption that there is no other evidence.

That is a very different. And that is why we laugh and point and call you names.

 

[zArk]

What, so you spend ten years studying sociology (more than double most who've done a BA and MA) and you can't even get close to spelling bureaucracy?

 

[editor]

Unfortunately the simulacra has become internalised to such an extent that beaurocracy [derived through the simulacra] and human action [simulacra subsumed] are interlinking with devasting effects.

Your opening piece of waffle about the supposed significance of the (on-paper) exercise for a private firm taking place on 7/7 is demonstrably irrelevant horseshit of the highest order.

So, who murdered the bombers please? And how did they do it?

 

[zArk]

Well you did - you linked to a post that said we should listen to David Icke! Why are you getting upset about that?

Care to explain which photo of Hussain at approximately 7.20am you are claiming is part of this overwhelming evidence?

 

[Bob_the_lost]

Your opening piece of waffle about the supposed significance of the (on-paper) exercise for a private firm taking place on 7/7 is demonstrably irrelevant horseshit of the highest order.

So, who murdered the bombers please? And how did they do it?

I admitt it, i did it (in the conservatory with the lead piping)

There, we now know what happened, i move that the thread be locked for posterity and be placed in the archives.

 

[zArk]

Your opening piece of waffle about the supposed significance of the (on-paper) exercise for a private firm taking place on 7/7 is demonstrably irrelevant horseshit of the highest order.

sorry, please read post 1501

 

[Fullyplumped]

Care to explain which photo of Hussain at approximately 7.20am you are claiming is part of this overwhelming evidence?

No. You're referring to my response to a post by Squegee, and not responding to my reply to you when you went into the huff about David Icke.

 

[editor]

sorry, please read post 1501

Sorry, either back up the claims you made in this thread or fuck off.

I'm getting fed up with the disruptive, ever-wriggling conspiraloonery going on here.

You claimed that they were murdered. Now either back that accusation up or shut the fuck up. The topic is too serious for your moronic fruitloop bullshit.

 

[zArk]

You claimed that they were murdered. Now either back that accusation up or shut the fuck up. The topic is too serious for your moronic fruitloop bullshit.

Blown up on the trains and the bus. That is clear.

As i dont believe that they were the bombers -- they were murdered.

 

[editor]

Blown up on the trains and the bus. That is clear.

As i dont believe that they were the bombers -- they were murdered.

So, for the very last time before you get thrown off this website for good: HOW WERE THEY 'MURDERED' AND BY WHOM?

 

[zArk]

HOW WERE THEY MURDERED AND BY WHOM?

BOMBS and 'THE SIMULACRAE'

 

[Larry O'Hara]

As i dont believe that they were the bombers -- they were murdered.

1) How did they get to the scenes of their murder then? If not by train from Luton, how?

2) are you saying that
--the neighbours who expressed disquiet at events in the 'bomb factory' in Leeds
--the computer expert who went to police re the bookshop in 2004

>>>> are liars, fantasists, and/or state stooges?

3) Don't you think that by concentrating on absurdities like the claim the four weren't involved, you distract attention from areas where the secret state may have direct/indirect involvement--eg the time spent by Khan & Tanweer in Pakistan?

 

[Larry O'Hara]

BOMBS and 'THE SIMULACRAE'

Not sure what Simulacrae is meant to mean here, but you hardly do your case any good by not even spelling it right. Surely its simulacrum or simulacra?

 

[editor]

BOMBS and 'THE SIMULACRAE'

In comprehensible English please.

Who or what the flying fuck is the 'SIMULACRAE'?
An alien race? Dr Who's nemesis.

Make sense or begone!

 

[Bob_the_lost]

Not sure what Simulacrae is meant to mean here, but you hardly do your case any good by not even spelling it right. Surely its simulacrum or simulacra?

I dunno, but they exploded when you shot them in marathon II, right nightmare they were.

 

[editor]

I think it may be time for zArk to return to his mother planet forever because the topic of 7/7 is too important and too serious for his sci-fi fantasies and fruitloop wriggling.

 

[zArk]

1) How did they get to the scenes of their murder then? If not by train from Luton, how?

I didnt say they didnt take the train. I said that they didnt take the train together. Hussain was solo.

2) are you saying that
--the neighbours who expressed disquiet at events in the 'bomb factory' in Leeds
--the computer expert who went to police re the bookshop in 2004

>>>> are liars, fantasists, and/or state stooges?

No. You do understand i am saying False Flag op. They were part of a 'terrorist drill'.
Just check out Khans and Aswats Mi5 links

3) Don't you think that by concentrating on absurdities like the claim the four weren't involved, you distract attention from areas where the secret state may have direct/indirect involvement--eg the time spent by Khan & Tanweer in Pakistan?

Non-sense it is part and parcel.

 

[Lock&Light]

but you hardly do your case any good

Surely the point is that he doesn't have one. A case, I mean.

 

[zArk]

Not sure what Simulacrae is meant to mean here, but you hardly do your case any good by not even spelling it right. Surely its simulacrum or simulacra?

nope, you are incorrect. Simulacrae is often used by Baudrillard.

 

[zArk]

In comprehensible English please.

Who or what the flying fuck is the 'SIMULACRAE'?
An alien race? Dr Who's nemesis.

If you dont like my answer, fine, but dont question my use of the word as it is contextually correct.

 

[Fullyplumped]

nope, you are incorrect. Simulacrae is often used by Baudrillard.

Yes, yes, but what is their address? A quick call to Crimestoppers and we can all have our tea.

 

[zArk]

Yes, yes, but what is their address? A quick call to Crimestoppers and we can all have our tea.

brilliant. If you cant handle my answer just dont respond. There is no need for childish jokes.

 

[ZAMB]

Because, like Prole and all the other nutters, you DON'T just ask for the release of the other available evidence, which is a perfectly reasonable thing to do. In fact, I have myself suggested that the narrative is ridiculously thin in supporting evidence, notwithstanding the restraints of an ongoing investigation.

You SUBSTITUTE ridiculous alternative theories based on the assumption that there is no other evidence.

That is a very different. And that is why we laugh and point and call you names.

I don't - you're mixing me up with some other person - all I've ever asked for, AFAIR, is a public, independent enquiry.

 

[editor]

If you dont like my answer, fine, but dont question my use of the word as it is contextually correct.

Last chance before you're banned.

Exactly who "murdered" the bombers and how was it achieved please?

If you're going to post up huge accusations, then vague references to mysterious, untraceable aliens isn't going to help you here.