The 2023 Russian Coup.

[Magnus McGinty]

Maybe it was correct when earlier today Washington Post suggested Prigozhin was after the heads of Sergei Shoigu and Valery Gerasimov rather than a push on Putin... And maybe that's what the deal done is based on.
That's the only explanation I can think of right now that makes sense

What was his comment about a new president all about then?

 

[mojo pixy]

It could just as easily have been hubris (oh dear more of that), that he is surrounded by yes-men and misunderstood how the workforce felt about potentially ultimately marching on Moscow. Then somehow it became clear to him (who can say how) and he slunk back off to Ukraine to do what he's been paid to do.

 

[DaveCinzano]

“Clips are spreading on social media of crowds in Rostov cheering Wagner soldiers as they leave the city”

Prigozhin halts movement of Wagner forces in Russia after Belarus brokers deal – Russia-Ukraine war live

Wagner leader says he is stopping his troops to avoid ‘Russian bloodshed’

www.theguardian.com

Great buncha lads

 

[DaveCinzano]

 

[Artaxerxes]

I'd still like to hear more about the ‘Wagner Commanders' Council’

I had those when I used to collect GI Joe

 

[Cid]

It is just increasingly clear that Moscow politics is basically a student house.

 

[Kaka Tim]

If putin doesnt move to disband wagner and arrest its leaders - how does he look?
what do the rank and file russian troops make of all this? Is armed mutiny the way to go if you are not happy with how things are going?
What do senior russian comanders feel right now? They must really really hate prigozhin for starters and putin has just rolled over?
utterley bewildering.
What next? Someone else having an armoured convoy pootle up the M4 to moscow cos dummies out of pram?

 

[maomao]

An excuse to get on the road to Kyiv?

 

[Magnus McGinty]

What happens with the Russian troops that allegedly switched allegiances? Bet they’re cock-a-hoop over this.

 

[DaveCinzano]

I had those when I used to collect GI Joe

Action Force

 

[two sheds]

What happens with the Russian troops that allegedly switched allegiances? Bet they’re cock-a-hoop over this.

And the people welcoming Wagner too

"Oh the Grand Old Duke of York

"

Prigozhin won't have to go opening any door knobs for a while.

 

[planetgeli]

What happens with the Russian troops that allegedly switched allegiances? Bet they’re cock-a-hoop over this.

Yeah I think 'allegedly' is doing heavy lifting there.

No meaningful resistance. No bloodshed. No evidence at all of mass defection (or any defection?).

All is not what it seems.

 

[ska invita]

To add insult to injury, is Monday no longer a bank holiday now?

 

[LDC]

Yeah I think 'allegedly' is doing heavy lifting there.

No meaningful resistance. No bloodshed. No evidence at all of mass defection (or any defection?).

All is not what it seems.

There was, aircraft were shot down, 7 by some accounts.

 

[planetgeli]

Mercenaries are gonna mercenary.

I'd still get my own chef if I was him.

 

[cupid_stunt]

That tweet was posted about 4 hours ago, no idea why you have posted it here now, things have somewhat moved on.

 

[Pickman's model]

Yeah I think 'allegedly' is doing heavy lifting there.

No meaningful resistance. No bloodshed. No evidence at all of mass defection (or any defection?).

All is not what it seems.

All that is solid melts into air

 

[planetgeli]

There was, aircraft were shot down, 7 by some accounts.

Yes, some accounts. That's the point about truth and war.

It is indisputable they took over something kebabking described earlier as 'like taking over Portsmouth in 1940'. With no major battle, no bloodshed at all according to Mr Wagner.

Then drove at speed with tanks on lorries, unhindered, for hundreds of km up the M4.

At the very least, as Ska suggested, negotiations were ongoing all day before roadrunner skidded to a halt with steam coming off his heels.

I don't know what happened today. But I don't think Prighozin came out winning.

 

[ska invita]

That tweet was posted about 4 hours ago, no idea why you have posted it here now, things have somewhat moved on.

seems i missed all that....note to self, i really must spend more time on urban

 

[Magnus McGinty]

Didn’t Russian forces bomb and mine main routes into Moscow? That’s going to be a bit of a headache.

 

[ska invita]

having mulled it over, and thinking about everything ive read so far, i haven't go a fucking clue what happened today. maybe it will all make sense in the morning,

Didn’t Russian forces bomb and mine main routes into Moscow? That’s going to be a bit of a headache.

another thing we dont really know if it happened or not

 

[The39thStep]

This is the sort of analysis that this thread should be aspiring to

 

[splonkydoo]

I don't know what happened today. But I don't think Prighozin came out winning.

Doesn't he have a wife and children

 

[Ax^]

hmm after almost attack the capital going back to a war zone where not so friendly fire incident could easily be orchestrated is an odd move

 

[planetgeli]

hmm after almost attack the capital going back to a war zone where not so friendly fire incident could easily be orchestrated is an odd move

He needs the troops. He's not going to shoot them. He'll let Ukraine (or various factions in Africa) do that.

He doesn't need Prighozin.

 

[Artaxerxes]

He needs the troops. He's not going to shoot them. He'll let Ukraine (or various factions in Africa) do that.

He doesn't need Prighozin.

My Putin is a master strategist unassailable in his web t-shirt has faded in the wash

 

[Ax^]

He needs the troops. He's not going to shoot them. He'll let Ukraine (or various factions in Africa) do that.

He doesn't need Prighozin.

did Pirighozin not already say this started because they already trying to kill them at the front by shelling them

hmm doing a run at the capital not going to give them any reason not the shell them again


Putins not running the war his general are
and this man think he better suited to do it

from their prospective best to kill him and anyone loyal to the man as quickly as possible

 

[rubbershoes]

Didn’t Russian forces bomb and mine main routes into Moscow? That’s going to be a bit of a headache.

I blame NATO

 

[SpookyFrank]

I do think it's probably a good thing those Wagner types didn't get given the run of a suddenly defenceless and rudderless city of 20 million people.

 

[planetgeli]

My Putin is a master strategist unassailable in his web t-shirt has faded in the wash

For sure. As I said earlier, there's still an Act still to come, to see who benefits. At the moment, in contrast to any normal play, we're left guessing because BOTH protagonists look beat.

One always wins. I'm backing the man with a country and the FSB behind him still (probably).