Terrorist attack NZ, 50 dead, many injured

[Jay Park]

Before you break out the pitchforks.......

You’ll be doxing pediatric surgeons next

K-Tim has a valid point though

 

[SpookyFrank]

Dreadful thing to wake up and see this morning.

The thing with these white supremacists, and this plank (the shooter) is a stereotypical example, is the ignorance. A thicko at school and then a thicko/bully as an adult.

And once you're out of school and can no longer get attention by just being a nasty piece of work, there's a new playground called the internet where you need never grow up. Trouble is there's now a lot more competition for who can be the biggest arsehole, and so you get escalation and escalation until it breaks into the real world and causes stuff like this.

 

[scifisam]

He grabbed the gun from the shooter but couldn't fire it, according to this report.



Christchurch mosque shooting: Linwood mosque 'hero' tackled gunman, grabbed weapon

One guy says the ambulance took 30 minutes to arrive, and the other says the police took 20 minutes. I really hope they're mistaken because otherwise that's a shocking delay.

 

[tonysingh]

if yer man was after them i have no doubt he would have mentioned it in his live stream, even if it was 'i wonder where those cricketers are'

I happened across a clip of that. it's going to stay with me for a while.

This sort of attack is vile in any case but there's an extra level of evil when it's aimed at a place of worship.

 

[krtek a houby]

Wankers

The Daily Mail Let Readers Download The New Zealand Mosque Attacker's Manifesto Directly From Its Website

 

[ElizabethofYork]

screen shot of uk facebook users celebrating -

Jesus Christ.

 

[Jay Park]

He grabbed the gun from the shooter but couldn't fire it, according to this report.



Christchurch mosque shooting: Linwood mosque 'hero' tackled gunman, grabbed weapon

I watched the footage, foolishly, and saw one young man run and dive at the shooter but he was shot down.

 

[Pickman's model]

I watched the footage, foolishly, and saw one young man run and dive at the shooter but he was shot down.

among the things you should never look at - footage of shootings, comments on newspaper articles

(((Jay Park)))

 

[SpookyFrank]

Wankers

The Daily Mail Let Readers Download The New Zealand Mosque Attacker's Manifesto Directly From Its Website

Distributing terrorist propaganda, sounds like criminal behaviour to me.

For comparison, I know a guy here in the UK who was thrown in prison without trial and threatened with deportation for sending his students a link to an al quaeda training manual which was on the reading list for the university course he was teaching.

 

[Pickman's model]

Distributing terrorist propaganda, sounds like criminal behaviour to me.

i think the phrase you're looking for is glorifying terrorism

 

[SpookyFrank]

i think the phrase you're looking for is glorifying terrorism

What are we up to now? 28 days arbitrary detention before you even see a lawyer? Sounds like a good start.

 

[hot air baboon]

this footage is like someone turning a first-person shooter game into real life.

Can't help wondering what the effect is of having millions of young males spending endless hours hypnotically staring at a screen with ever more immersive & realistic games consisting of shooting people. Can this not be having ANY type of subliminal effect ?

 

[Pickman's model]

this footage is like someone turning a first-person shooter game into real life.

Can't help wondering what the effect is of having millions of young males spending endless hours hypnotically staring at a screen with ever more immersive & realistic games consisting of shooting people. Can this not be having ANY type of subliminal effect ?

see e.g. How the US military is using ‘violent, chaotic, beautiful’ video games to train soldiers

 

[killer b]

Worth reading this Bellingcat analysis of the guy's manifesto

Shitposting, Inspirational Terrorism, and the Christchurch Mosque Massacre - bellingcat

 

[Pickman's model]

Worth reading this Bellingcat analysis of the guy's manifesto

Shitposting, Inspirational Terrorism, and the Christchurch Mosque Massacre - bellingcat

yeh it's a very useful analysis

 

[Gromit]

I'm disgusted the the Beeb article doesn't have "terrorist" in the headline.

They make passing mention that their Prime minister called them a terrorist but didn't lable them that themselves.

 

[SpookyFrank]

I'm disgusted the the Beeb article doesn't have "terrorist" in the headline.

They make passing mention that their Prime minister called them a terrorist but didn't lable them that themselves.

Standard. Indefensible, but standard.

 

[Poi E]

NZ media are putting "terrorist" in quotes.

 

[ManchesterBeth]

 

[maomao]

Two colleagues of mine talking today:

'So was it terrorists?'

'No, they were white.'

 

[ManchesterBeth]

 

[klang]

Two colleagues of mine talking today:

'So was it terrorists?'

'No, they were white.'

that's worthy of a complaint to management.

 

[SpookyFrank]

Two colleagues of mine talking today:

'So was it terrorists?'

'No, they were white.'

They're just making explicit what gets fed to them via implicit narratives. Garbage in, garbage out.

 

[Sprocket.]

Two colleagues of mine talking today:

'So was it terrorists?'

'No, they were white.'

 

[maomao]

that's worthy of a complaint to management.

I don't think management would even understand the nature of the of complaint. I've just about got one of them to stop using the word chink in front of me. She still does but she goes 'oh sorry, you don't like that do you' afterwards.

 

[SpookyFrank]

I think of it more in terms of male fragility than white fragility, and even then that's only the background to radicalisation itself which is definitely not something to be glossed over.

 

[Mrs Miggins]

I've been out of internet access for a couple of days and have come back to this. I am so utterly shocked and horrified. My guide in Egypt, Fatima, who is of course Muslim, found out about it as we got back to Luxor and showed me. It's horrifying.

 

[Pickman's model]

I've been out of internet access for a couple of days and have come back to this. I am so utterly shocked and horrified. My guide in Egypt, Fatima, who is of course Muslim, found out about it as we got back to Luxor and showed me. It's horrifying.

(((Mrs M)))

 

[Argonia]

I've been out of internet access for a couple of days and have come back to this. I am so utterly shocked and horrified. My guide in Egypt, Fatima, who is of course Muslim, found out about it as we got back to Luxor and showed me. It's horrifying.

I teach Syrian refugees English on a Friday and they had video of it, just beyond words...

 

[Pickman's model]

I teach Syrian refugees English on a Friday and they had video of it, just beyond words...