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What? Who wanted it?
Terrorist attack NZ, 50 dead, many injured
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What? Who wanted it?
I think this has been cited above: 2007 New Zealand police raids - Wikipedia
treefrog
Saddle up
NZ fash have long been seen as a joke in some quarters. There's a grim irony in a country founded in colonialism and white supremacy finding the idea of neo-nazis to be a bit of a laugh but there you go.
Matt Nippert is one of our best investigative journalists (broke the Peter Thiel citizenship story among others). Says he's getting six tips a minute off the back of this.
I'm not going to debate NZ gun laws with folk but mind that some of us actually live here, so don't show yourselves up by talking like you know shit when you still think kia ora is an orange juice.
Matt Nippert is one of our best investigative journalists (broke the Peter Thiel citizenship story among others). Says he's getting six tips a minute off the back of this.
I'm not going to debate NZ gun laws with folk but mind that some of us actually live here, so don't show yourselves up by talking like you know shit when you still think kia ora is an orange juice.
Spymaster
Plastic Paddy
Has someone said something that's wrong?
maomao
普費斯
Available in several flavours including orange. But squash rather than juice.
Pickman's model
Starry Wisdom
i think we all know shit
likesfish
You can't park here sir
Nazi's aren't really taken seriously because 9 times out 10 they are a joke wouldn't want to meet them outside a pub but as a mass movement, they are a joke less filling a beer cellar more a bedsit with room to spare.
but you don't need a mass movement to commit an atrocity.
catching the wanker before they put their plan into action UK police have been pretty good at locking inadequates up but you only have to miss one.
but you don't need a mass movement to commit an atrocity.
catching the wanker before they put their plan into action UK police have been pretty good at locking inadequates up but you only have to miss one.
Mrs Miggins
Eternal
Well it does feel like the thread is descending into the usual points scoring bullshit around who thinks they know the most about guns or about police rapid response times or how gun laws should be amended when the fact is, very few people here actually live in New Zealand or know the first thing about it.
preach.
Spymaster
Plastic Paddy
49 people have just been shot to death by a bloke with a legally held weapon. How can that not be a topic of discussion?
agricola
a genuine importer of owls
Perhaps, though its also probably the case that movements of the left are easier to deal with as well - there are more people involved, there is an identifiable and predictable programme and they usually invite strangers to meetings for a start - plus they are unlikely to have any kind of money or influence behind them.
This fringe (this bloke, Breivik, Copeland, Mair and their ilk) on the other hand are already paranoid, has no need to gather support or money and often consists of one person who, by the time they are planning an attack, may well have been shunned by other groups on the far right - so is much less likely to come to notice by turning up to meetings, shouting extremist demands or rowing with the cops. To stop them then requires luck or a system that can notice beforehand the red flags that are invariably identified after the event (when there are vast resources deployed to find what went wrong).
Pickman's model
Starry Wisdom
yeh but uninformed speculation is our meat and drink
Spymaster
Plastic Paddy
There's a bit of history of egged politicians responding physically and tbf, most of us would probably do the same if we felt able. John Prescott had a much better jab than this putz though.
Spymaster
Plastic Paddy
Is that a child? Doesn't look like one to me.
Idris2002
Christmas Eve, you know?
He became a man that day.
Spymaster
Plastic Paddy
Well yeah. If you're going to slap an egg on the back of someone's head, be prepared for what happens next!He became a man that day.
existentialist
Tired and unemotional
And I guess he won't have to pay for a beer in an awful lot of bars...
scifisam
feck! arse! girls! drink!
Probably ten minutes right in the centre of the city. Not twenty or thirty. You can be sympathetic to the difficulties the police faced and also acknowledge that that's a really long time.
There were three other armed people arrested at the scene, one of whom has been released as having nothing to do with the attack. 250,000 people from that population of 5 million have gun licences, so let's not pretend that the police there are completely unfamiliar with them.
SpookyFrank
A cheap source of teeth for aquarium gravel
Yes I'm wondering why the kid was arrested but not the senator or his goons.
Well, not really wondering but you know. Wondering what the excuse is for taking an egg more seriously than a punch in the face.
scifisam
feck! arse! girls! drink!
Nice. I think it's odd that it apparently took thirty minutes for an ambulance to arrive. That's not points scoring.
Ah, fuck urban. You can't wonder about police response times without being accused of points scoring even though making such an accusation is pretty much points scoring, isn't it? I give up.
mojo pixy
○-<{[°_°]}>-○
struck first from behind -vs- reacted to an attack from behind without looking. even a crap lawyer couldn't miss that one tbh.
SpookyFrank
A cheap source of teeth for aquarium gravel
1. Anning clearly looked before punching, and threw multiple punches.
2. The people who restrained the kid were not attacked themselves and so were not acting in self defence.
3. If the kid lost consciousness, that's considerably more serious than getting egg in your face.
Yossarian
Get thee behind me, Santa
$3,688 raised so far and the teen's been released without charge so that's a lot of money for eggs to crack on Anning's head- enough for some ostrich eggs, or maybe a fossilised dinosaur egg.
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