Terrorist attack NZ, 50 dead, many injured
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albionism
A successful virus clinging to a speck of mud.
That fuck-wit racist piece of shit Anning got egged.
Well done that boy.
Fraser Anning punches teen after being egged in Melbourne
Well done that boy.
Fraser Anning punches teen after being egged in Melbourne
cupid_stunt
Merry fecking Christmas.
Idris2002
Christmas Eve, you know?
Cribynkle
squawk
I suppose that make absolutely no rational sense. You might be right about the Christians and Jews from Ottoman vassals. However, Ottomans were Turk. Just have a look at the London Gazette and textual descriptions of the contents of the images:
https://www.thegazette.co.uk/London/issue/1846/data.pdf
Page 1 | Issue 1846, 26 July 1683 | London Gazette | The Gazette
Page 3 | Issue 1846, 26 July 1683 | London Gazette | The Gazette
English map made by British:
French map made by Françis:
Deutch map made by Germans:
As you can see, the Holy Roman Empire, Byzantine Empire, Habsburg, France, Italy, Hungarians, Poles, etc., they used to call Ottomans 'Turks', or 'Turk Empire'. On the other hand, you can call them Ottomans of course. It does not matter. Because it will not change the reality. And yet despite this, in the literature, various terms might be used. So I mean, the term "Turks" might be used to replace "Ottomans", "Ottoman Forces", or "Muslims". Anyways we need to end that and I believe we should leave the topic as it stands.
Greetings,
Yeah thank you I received your message and I'll talk to you later if you don't mind.
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Now I have a question. Because I'm wondering where he found these guns. So, where did he get that gun? And who sells those guns to those retard? So is that legal to do that? I've never been to NZ and I don't know it's legal to sell it. Therefore I am asking. If not, how could he ever find the gun?
LDC
On est tous des pangolins
NZ has fairly relaxed gun laws and it's possible to buy semi-automatic weapons with the correct license, and in this case all the reports I've seen say the weapons used were legally held.
treefrog
Saddle up
Yup. We tend to forget how lax our gun laws are. Government have announced a ban on semi-automatic weapons today.
Baronage-Phase
Well-Known Member
Even still...who would be using semi automatic weapons to cull pigs or hunt anything?
It is crazy that ANYONE should be able to just go and buy semi automatic weapons.
Spymaster
Plastic Paddy
Reading about Kiwi gun laws and some of the stats are staggering. They estimate about 1.5 million firearms to be in private hands though they can't be sure because not all individual weapons are registered. With a population of something under 5 million people and about 20% of New Zealand households holding guns perhaps it's surprising that something like this hasn't happened before. They had a spree shooting (Aramoana) in 1990 with 13 dead but nothing of any scale since. They've got quite a vocal and successful gun lobby so I'd expect there to be a lot of resistance to meaningful change in firearms legislation there and it makes you wonder how many lives have been saved in the UK by British gun laws. From my reading it seems that it's about the same process in NZ to obtain a FAC as it is in the UK to get a shotgun certificate and no types are completely banned except full autos.
It's going to be interesting to see the legislative response to this.
kebabking
Not a Girly Swot, but I like them....
Assuming that the wild pigs in NZ are anything like wild boar in the UK, a semi-automatic would be a very good idea.
Obsessing about the weapon massively misses the point - while limiting legal access to this or that firearm might have had some impact on the numbers, it has little impact on the availability of illegally held firearms - and far importantly ignores the much bigger issues around internet surveillance and analysis, police structure and procedures, resources, and free speech/hate speech legislation.
Gun control legislation? easy, cheap, quick.
How this person was missed and why wasn't he interdicted at any stage from posting shit on the net, moving to NZ, buying a firearm and ammunition, posting more shit on the net to walking into a second Mosque? Expensive, difficult, long-winded.
Guess which one will get done and which one will be kicked off into the long grass, never to seen again?
Oh, I see and I would like to thank you for the information that you have given me. Well then, I'll tell you my thoughts on the second paragraph.
The governments needs to have clear vision and policies to meet this objective. Because there remains an unacceptable level of violence and use of weapons. The fact that all types of weapons, causing death and misery to millions of innocent people. These adverse effects make it clear why need to ban the production and use of guns, semi-automatic weapons as well as illegal weapons all over the world. However, I guess this will not be possible. Because these kinds of weapons means make money, and as much money as possible. Shit!
Perhaps, that is another item of today's good news but that's not enough.
Yossarian
Get thee behind me, Santa
They were very appreciative and I think slightly surprised at the mosque we went to in Aberdeen.
rekil
to menny cranks
Stop posting this fucking wank.
likesfish
You can't park here sir
A bolt action. 303 is easily capable of 20 aimed shots a minute.
The parkland massacre was done using 10 round magazines.
It's not the type of gun it's the type of person UK gun clubs have got very strict on vetting people who they let Finish introductory courses no membership no guns for you.
LDC
On est tous des pangolins
I really hope nobody ever trusted you with more than a potato peeler.
which tbf a potato peeler was probably better made and more dangerous.
Spymaster
Plastic Paddy
Well that's just not true is it? You can shoot at least 5 rounds from a semi in the time it takes you to operate a bolt. If the same person had both weapons he'd do far more damage with the gun with the higher rate of fire.
likesfish
You can't park here sir
Well possibly 30 assualt rifle rounds fired fast as you can a lot of those are going to miss or injure people.
10 rounds large calibre rounds fired from a concealed supported firing position is ten kills you then you move and do it again and again.
Personally I'd rather have Mr neo nazi only allowed airsoft guns no deaths
10 rounds large calibre rounds fired from a concealed supported firing position is ten kills you then you move and do it again and again.
Personally I'd rather have Mr neo nazi only allowed airsoft guns no deaths
ManchesterBeth
Well-Known Member
this is all a bit bollocks isn't it? Loads of reports of NZ anarchists/radicals talking about how they have been under intense surveillance from the police and people are saying the cops were ill prepared?
No, that can't possibly be it. they wanted it.
No, that can't possibly be it. they wanted it.
kebabking
Not a Girly Swot, but I like them....
While this is is true, it's something of a rabbit hole to go down - we've all seen what can be done with a lorry in Nice, or a car and some kitchen knives on Borough market.
ManchesterBeth
Well-Known Member
ama yani osmanliler türkmen, tatar, çerkez etc etc etc. değildi. bu önemli bır hassas nokta.
Idris2002
Christmas Eve, you know?
It's either cock-up or connivance, looking at this:
Misguided Spying and the New Zealand Massacre
By connivance, I don't mean the deep state planned this or anything like that, just that the Kiwi equivalent of special branch were indifferent at best to the threat presented by the shirt-wearers.
ManchesterBeth
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Spymaster
Plastic Paddy
Sure, but the comparison was between two types of firearms in shooting circumstances, and the fact that most of the mass shootings have been with legally held weapons (except maybe Bataclan?) The main point being that semi-automatic weapons should be banned from civilian use, imo.
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