Suarez gets 8 match ban

[Centurian]

Everyone points out how hot we are on racism compared to the rest of the (racist) world (apart from America) but isn't that in itself racist? Or is it just xenophobic of us?

 

[Monkeygrinder's Organ]

Everyone points out how hot we are on racism compared to the rest of the (racist) world (apart from America) but isn't that in itself racist? Or is it just xenophobic of us?

Do they? Are you sure you aren't making the mistake of confusing reality with something off RAWK there?

 

[Centurian]

Do they? Are you sure you aren't making the mistake of confusing reality with something off RAWK there?

I take it you haven't been listening to hour upon hour of debate on this issue on the radio and media in general? Ask around if you don't believe me. The "all cultures are equal" brigade have been very quite on this particular issue. The thick cunts!

PS What's this Rawk of which you speak?

 

[FridgeMagnet]

 

[twistedAM]

PS What's this Rawk of which you speak?

this drivel: www.redandwhitekop.com/

 

[binka]

im almost tempted to watch the liverpool game tomorrow just out of curiosity to see if the fans in the stadium show their support for suarez in a similar manner to those online.

 

[Centurian]

It's interesting how few black players Liverpool have - just Johnson isn't it? And Suarez himself of course.

 

[Big Gunz]

It's interesting how few black players Liverpool have - just Johnson isn't it? And Suarez himself of course.

King Kenny is clearly racist getting rid of Ngog and Babel those quality players. He also signed John Barnes, must have been an administrative error?

 

[Maggot]

Yeah I was wondering what you were doing on the pitch at Anfield that day.
I'll take your word for it then.

Nah, I'm just glad maggot plus several thousand Liverpool fans were there on the pitch and we know the full story now.

I'm not claiming I heard what was said. Just that no-one's accusing Suarez of being racist (apart from deareg).

 

[Deareg]

I'm not claiming I heard what was said. Just that no-one's accusing Suarez of being racist (apart from deareg).

And the FA.

 

[Maggot]

And the FA.

Nothing about him being a racist in their report.

 

[Deareg]

Nothing about him being a racist in their report.

have you read the report? and if not racist abuse, then what was he banned for?

 

[Deareg]

I'm not claiming I heard what was said. Just that no-one's accusing Suarez of being racist (apart from deareg).

I would love to be there to see the result if you walked up to a black man in Brixton and said hey "little black boy"

 

[Maggot]

have you read the report? and if not racist abuse, then what was he banned for?

Yeah, racial abuse - not being a racist. They are different things.

 

[Deareg]

Yeah, racial abuse - not being a racist. They are different things.

So it's allright to use racist abuse as long as you are not a racist?

Are you really this fucking thick?

 

[Big Gunz]

I would love to be there to see the result if you walked up to a black man in Brixton and said hey "little black boy"

It's not racist to say that. People have said "hey Chinaman" to me when I was a lot younger (and less mean looking) I don't take that as racist. It's disrespectful but certainly not racist.

 

[Deareg]

It's not racist to say that. People have said "hey Chinaman" to me when I was a lot younger (and less mean looking) I don't take that as racist. It's disrespectful but certainly not racist.

That is your prerogative, but it is racist.

 

[Big Gunz]

That is your prerogative, but it is racist.

Well I didn't get racial abuse, just an ignorant persons way of attracting my attention.

 

[100% masahiko]

It's not racist to say that. People have said "hey Chinaman" to me when I was a lot younger (and less mean looking) I don't take that as racist. It's disrespectful but certainly not racist.

Sorry but that's racism in my book. Like generalising the entire SE race is Chinamen.

It's like old Jamaican men trying to pick up young SE Asian women (stereotype but sadly true, it's like some kinda 'prize) by saying, "ere, ere Miss Ching."
The wife, family and our Japanese girlfriends get it all the time.

 

[Maggot]

So it's allright to use racist abuse as long as you are not a racist?

Are you really this fucking thick?

Where have I said it's alright to use racist abuse?

 

[Deareg]

Well I didn't get racial abuse, just an ignorant persons way of attracting my attention.

I have a black mate who we all referred to as chink when we were kids, I would not dream of calling him that now even though some people still do and he does not mind, It isn't my place to tell him or you whether to take offence but I think to even use the word chink is racist.

 

[Deareg]

Where have I said it's alright to use racist abuse?

I am not surprised that I am confused when you are even confusing yourself.

 

[Monkeygrinder's Organ]

Yeah, racial abuse - not being a racist. They are different things.

TBF I don't think there's any way you could charge someone - under the law or FA rules or whatever - of 'being a racist.' You can only be done for behaving in a racist manner.

 

[revol68]

yeah let's not essentialise it too much, saying something racist doesn't make you a racist in the same way saying something stupid doesn't make you automatically stupid.

infact I think Suarez is the kind of cunt who would use racist remarks simply to wind up another player, to try and gain an advantage.

I think the tendency not to make a distinction between racist, homophobic or sexist behaviours and someone being a sexist, racist or homophobes is problematic in that it makes people overly defensive and reduces the issue to a matter of policing language rather than examining underlying discourses that run through out society and aren't just in the heads of individual sinners.

 

[TruXta]

yeah let's not essentialise it too much, saying something racist doesn't make you a racist in the same way saying something stupid doesn't make you automatically stupid.

infact I think Suarez is the kind of cunt who would use racist remarks simply to wind up another player, to try and gain an advantage.

I think the tendency not to make a distinction between racist, homophobic or sexist behaviours and someone being a sexist, racist or homophobes is problematic in that it makes people overly defensive and reduces the issue to a matter of policing language rather than examining underlying discourses that run through out society and aren't just in the heads of individual sinners.

I wasn't expecting anything so sensible from you.

 

[revol68]

my shits always bang on, you just don't recognise it as sensible when it extends beyond the parameters of your liberal sensibilities.

 

[TruXta]

my shits always bang on, you just don't recognise it as sensible when it extends beyond the parameters of your liberal sensibilities.

off you fuck again then.

 

[Deareg]

You say that shit in Moss side, Brixton, Toxteth or many other places to a black man and do you think he is going to give a shit whether or not you consider yourself to be a racist?

 

[revol68]

You say that shit in Moss side, Brixton, Toxteth or many other places to a black man and do you think he is going to give a shit whether or not you consider yourself to be a racist?

your point being?

 

[Deareg]

your point being?

I was asking a throwaway question, but I have made my point numerous times all ready, it being, if you use racist language you are a racist.