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Spurs 2024-25

Missing in action:
Vicario
Romero
Van de Ven
Udogie (sub - not fully fit)
Bentancur
Odobert
Richarlison
Moore

Available and playing:
Forster
Porro --- Gray Dragusin --- Spence
Bissouma
Sarr --- Maddison
Kulusevski ------ Solanke ------ Son (c)
Subs:
Austin (gk)
Reguilon, Werner (out of favour)
Udogie (unfit)
Bergvall (promising but raw)
Lankshear, Dorrington, Olusesi (untested as yet)
...
& Johnson (yay we've got 1 proper, senior sub to bring on).

Liverpool, meanwhile - top of the table, at full strength (apart from Konate), with plenty of players who've had minutes taken out of their legs in the past month.

COYS!!!
 
‘Am I not entertained’? No, not really. We have basketball for this sort of nonsense.

Took part in the Levy/ENIC out protests before the game - felt futile, esp when being filmed by tourists in half and half scarves.

Yes, yes, yes, big injury list etc etc. Coaches are allowed to set their teams up in different ways and Ange should have been more pragmatic (he never will be). It could’ve been 3-10 tbh.

Liverpool switched off inexcusably but aside from that looked sharp, direct, well organised and well coached. Must’ve felt like a training game
 
‘Am I not entertained’? No, not really. We have basketball for this sort of nonsense.

Took part in the Levy/ENIC out protests before the game - felt futile, esp when being filmed by tourists in half and half scarves.

Yes, yes, yes, big injury list etc etc. Coaches are allowed to set their teams up in different ways and Ange should have been more pragmatic (he never will be). It could’ve been 3-10 tbh.

Liverpool switched off inexcusably but aside from that looked sharp, direct, well organised and well coached. Must’ve felt like a training game
Why were you protesting?
 
Why were you protesting?

Profit over success
Gross mismanagement over a 23 year reign (1 LC to show for it)
Highest ticket prices in the league
Cancelled OAP concessions
14 managers and counting
A ‘feeling’ that the NFL, Go Karting, boxing, Beyoncé etc are prioritised over the football team.

May seem like 1st world problems and probably are but I know you’ve expressed similar sentiments at West Ham about your board
 
Profit over success
Gross mismanagement over a 23 year reign (1 LC to show for it)
Highest ticket prices in the league
Cancelled OAP concessions
14 managers and counting
A ‘feeling’ that the NFL, Go Karting, boxing, Beyoncé etc are prioritised over the football team.

May seem like 1st world problems and probably are but I know you’ve expressed similar sentiments at West Ham about your board
Yeah I just wanted to know, cos I didn't know things had got to the protest stage over there. From the outside you're consistently competing for Europe, you've got a great brand new stadium and you've managed to force yourselves into that top group without being bought by some murderous oil state or some murderous Russian oligarch. But I don't really pay much attention to what's going on at Spurs so I guess there's stuff going on I don't know about. The ticket prices and the OAP thing, fair enough.

TBH I thought the same when people were moaning about Moyes. We came 6th and 7th! We won a European title!
 
Yeah I just wanted to know, cos I didn't know things had got to the protest stage over there. From the outside you're consistently competing for Europe, you've got a great brand new stadium and you've managed to force yourselves into that top group without being bought by some murderous oil state or some murderous Russian oligarch. But I don't really pay much attention to what's going on at Spurs so I guess there's stuff going on I don't know about. The ticket prices and the OAP thing, fair enough.

TBH I thought the same when people were moaning about Moyes. We came 6th and 7th! We won a European title!
Levy and Co deserve a lot of credit. From about 2004 onwards we took the leap from being part of the chasing pack and started competing with the big teams - those with huge history (Liverpool, Man Utd), the peak of Wenger's Arsenal, Chelsea's new money. Martin Jol was the start of it - first a dodgy lasagne away from the Champions League, then we got there, and we did it all by spending sustainably (self-generated and smart revenue chasing) with a clear identity of being a great place for up and coming talent. There were some ups and downs but the next decade saw us become the only team to consistently challenge the "Sky 4" (plus latterly Man City) without some seismic outside financial factor; culminating in the couple of seasons with realistic title challenges (a 2nd and the infamous 3rd in a 2 horse race vs Leicester).

Levy and Co also deserve a fucking good shouting at for not building on it. Pochettino had a summer without being allowed to add a single player to his squad; we earned the right to play with the big boys, in our shiny new world class stadium, then we didn't act like we belonged in that company. That squad that so nearly achieved miracles was systematically dismantled (partly through age, partly through natural turnover) and the playing side has clearly taken a back seat to maintaining the increased profile of the club as a whole, and what we're left with is being back to where we were in 2004 - one of the bigger, better sides in the chasing pack casting envious glances at the perennial title challenging sides. Just in a better stadium, with a cheese room.
 
Levy and Co deserve a lot of credit. From about 2004 onwards we took the leap from being part of the chasing pack and started competing with the big teams - those with huge history (Liverpool, Man Utd), the peak of Wenger's Arsenal, Chelsea's new money. Martin Jol was the start of it - first a dodgy lasagne away from the Champions League, then we got there, and we did it all by spending sustainably (self-generated and smart revenue chasing) with a clear identity of being a great place for up and coming talent. There were some ups and downs but the next decade saw us become the only team to consistently challenge the "Sky 4" (plus latterly Man City) without some seismic outside financial factor; culminating in the couple of seasons with realistic title challenges (a 2nd and the infamous 3rd in a 2 horse race vs Leicester).

Levy and Co also deserve a fucking good shouting at for not building on it. Pochettino had a summer without being allowed to add a single player to his squad; we earned the right to play with the big boys, in our shiny new world class stadium, then we didn't act like we belonged in that company. That squad that so nearly achieved miracles was systematically dismantled (partly through age, partly through natural turnover) and the playing side has clearly taken a back seat to maintaining the increased profile of the club as a whole, and what we're left with is being back to where we were in 2004 - one of the bigger, better sides in the chasing pack casting envious glances at the perennial title challenging sides. Just in a better stadium, with a cheese room.
I thought you didnt get the cheese room? 😁

But isn't all of that because you have to pay for the stadium? Like I said I don't know but it seems like a pretty simple correlation.
 
Still Ange in as long as the replenished team next year does well in cup competitions, and we get into Europe somehow. If senior players start bitching in the open about the impact of Angeball on their hamstrings and career longevity, then we’ll probably need to change, but hopefully not back to a bus parker.

Levy out is a) meaningless, as we know he will exit when the right offer comes along, and nobody is in a position to sack him, and b) ludicrous, given that the most likely alternatives would be a debt-loading vulture fund or a sportswashing petrostate, and c) also ludicrous, given that we are only half way through a massive property development exercise which will ultimately give us a cheat mode on FFP. And Kulu deserves a much better song than the “I don’t care about Levy” dirge.
 
I thought you didnt get the cheese room? 😁

But isn't all of that because you have to pay for the stadium? Like I said I don't know but it seems like a pretty simple correlation.

The stadium and wider development funding has been very long term. I suspect that the missed transfer windows were more a matter of horror at player price inflation, which ENIC has now come grumpily to terms with.

The cheese room exists. It was removed from the building plans and from hospitality pre-sales collateral at the request of a certain oligarch who was concerned for the security of his incredibly rare washed rind yak cheese. If you’re trusted enough by the club, you get a tap on the shoulder and an invitation to be a keyholder.
 
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Quiet on here and understandably so..,

Flu bug running through the squad in top of the 10 or so injuries. So, a thumping awaits this lunchtime. Never known this much apathy around Spurs. Fans not even really angry about the situation - just resigned to it.

1-6 Barcodes
 
Historically this is the family derby.

The rivalry has rather waned since I stopped supporting Newcastle, but I'm sure my mum'll have something to say if she comes back from the Lane following a Spurs win.

Don't think she'll be too optimistic, though. Any conversation about football over Christmas included some mention of "we've got so many injuries we haven't got a team".

Fans not even really angry about the situation - just resigned to it.

Yup, pretty much sums up my mum's attitude :(
 
2 1 down at halftime.

A thought that's been festering for a while - Dragusin is really, really shit. We've been so reliant on him as our only fit senior CB, but his passing is awful, pace lacking, decision making questionable at best.

Kulusevski, Johnson and Solanke have all been excellent over the season, but we really struggle to build a platform for them to play going forward when our defence is so poor.
 
How was Austin? Tbf to Spurs, 2-1 is far better than I expected it would be. Ange apparently was going bananas on the touchline.

Did well. The incomprehensible Scot’s MOTM.

We were good in the second half and unlucky that none of the attacks paid off.
 
Spurs isn't my team, but is my fella's so i watch them play a lot. Austin was great I thought, safe hands and crucially feet today - stayed cool even when they were crowding him on corners. Dragusin is useful in the air, but is a panic passer and makes shit choices under pressure. Second half was miles better without him. Reguilon brought some much needed composure at the back too I thought. Shame to see Bergvall come off when he finally started playing well, but that second half line up is what you should be starting against Liverpool next week imo. Sonny still ain't the full ticket is he? Can't tell if it's mind or body but something's off.
 
Spurs isn't my team, but is my fella's so i watch them play a lot. Austin was great I thought, safe hands and crucially feet today - stayed cool even when they were crowding him on corners. Dragusin is useful in the air, but is a panic passer and makes shit choices under pressure. Second half was miles better without him. Reguilon brought some much needed composure at the back too I thought. Shame to see Bergvall come off when he finally started playing well, but that second half line up is what you should be starting against Liverpool next week imo. Sonny still ain't the full ticket is he? Can't tell if it's mind or body but something's off.

Dragusin was playing through lurgy tbf. Reggie’s advantage is that he has been frozen out from coaching for so long that he plays like a normal full back rather than an inverted whatsit.
 
Dragusin was playing through lurgy tbf. Reggie’s advantage is that he has been frozen out from coaching for so long that he plays like a normal full back rather than an inverted whatsit.
Maybe, but he almost always passes like someone's got a gun to his head. I thought Reguilon was a good influence, you've got youngsters playing out of position at the back and an old hand, even if he's not up there with the best, seemed to calm everyone down. I can't bring myself to criticise Gray when he's not even a defender, but he actually made a couple of good blocks today. His head must be fried though, learning to think like a centre back on the main bloody stage.
 
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