steeplejack
trapped lbw for a duck
A really insightful long read from this week's LRB on Kate Forbes, the wee Frees, and how a religious zealot is in the running for the leadership of a secular, centrist political party in 2023...
SNP leadership election (2023)
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steeplejack
trapped lbw for a duck
Kate Forbes trusted most by voters on 6 key issues
tl;dr: Forbes 27%, Humza 17%, Regan 9%, don't knows miles in the lead at 45%
John Curtice has SNP support at it's lowest level- 40%- since 2018. Disarray doesn't play well, but still seen as prefereable to any of the branch office alternatives.
SNP membership currently sitting at around 78,000, miles down from the high of 125,000 in 2019.
tl;dr: Forbes 27%, Humza 17%, Regan 9%, don't knows miles in the lead at 45%
John Curtice has SNP support at it's lowest level- 40%- since 2018. Disarray doesn't play well, but still seen as prefereable to any of the branch office alternatives.
SNP membership currently sitting at around 78,000, miles down from the high of 125,000 in 2019.
steeplejack
trapped lbw for a duck
Fedayn
Well-Known Member
And on it goes...... SNP leader candidates call for 'robust' audit of vote system
sparkling
Proper country now
None of them are inspiring me, not that I am eligible to vote for the leadership. None of what they are saying seems relevant to my life at the moment. Maybe I have not concentrated hard enough and as a newbie to Scotland, I am still learning, but it would be good to feel some connection or relevance to my life.
I arrived here almost determined to vote SNP but find myself now swerving towards Labour.
Interesting debate/conversation on the Newsagents last night in particular how a referendum should or could be used to back up the perceived and known views of the electorate, which makes sense to me.
I arrived here almost determined to vote SNP but find myself now swerving towards Labour.
Interesting debate/conversation on the Newsagents last night in particular how a referendum should or could be used to back up the perceived and known views of the electorate, which makes sense to me.
bluescreen
tofu eating wokerati
So Peter Murrell has just resigned, over membership numbers apparently. What effect will this have?
ETA: correction - the headline, which is all there is at time of posting, says 'amid', not 'over'. That makes more sense.
ETA: correction - the headline, which is all there is at time of posting, says 'amid', not 'over'. That makes more sense.
danny la rouge
More like *fanny* la rouge!
BBC says “over”.
SNP chief executive Peter Murrell resigns over membership row SNP chief executive Peter Murrell resigns over membership row
“With immediate effect”.
It’s significant.
geminisnake
a complex mass of conflicting ideas
there's very little point in voting Labour in your area and please don't vote Labour because it's them that have caused an awful lot of the shit that the SNP has tried to sort out. Glasgow AND Aberdeen SLab fought for yrs NOT to give women equal pay, do you really want to vote for that?
Also all the hospital PFI was Labour, hospital parking charges Labour, getting into bed with teh Tories Labour, I could go on but I'm tired.
weepiper
I fix the machines that fight climate change
I hate the whole shitshow just now and don't want to vote for anyone at all at the moment. What gem said about Labour, I mean, the fucking Tories, and don't get me started on the Lib Dems. The Greens are wankers. The SNP are falling apart. It's all shit.
steeplejack
trapped lbw for a duck
Interesting article on polling : Forbes ahead of Yousaf with the public, who don't have a vote, whilst Yosaf has a narrow lead amongst the membership, who do.
The circus ends next Monday, or at least the election part of it does.
The circus ends next Monday, or at least the election part of it does.
cupid_stunt
Chief seagull hater & farmerbarleymow's nemesis.
Or, will it?
Should the SNP leadership contest be stopped?
Yesterday saw the final televised debate between the three contenders for leader of the SNP and First Minister of Scotland. Voting will end and the winner will be declared on 27 March. Or will it? Those sick of this increasingly tawdry contest should prepare themselves: it may have a way to go...
www.spectator.co.uk
danny la rouge
More like *fanny* la rouge!
“There is a talk of a legal challenge from pro-independence blog Wings Over Scotland”.
Is that still a thing? I’d no idea.
Is that still a thing? I’d no idea.
steeplejack
trapped lbw for a duck
Yeah I had to mute that tube on twitter as he kept by ‘suggested’ by Elon Musk, who seems to have et him back on there.
danny la rouge
More like *fanny* la rouge!
Didn’t he resign from blogging?
steeplejack
trapped lbw for a duck
No the fall of the house of Sturgeon has been a quiverful of plutonium rods for his malign verbal reactor.
geminisnake
a complex mass of conflicting ideas
I think he said he'd come back if folk wanted it so I'm guessing enough folk did. I don't particularly like the guy but he quite often seems to know more than other outlets
danny la rouge
More like *fanny* la rouge!
The ballot is closed. The result will be known in 2 hours. The tension is undetectable.
steeplejack
trapped lbw for a duck
Still whilst waiting half-heartedly for a result which will prelude months of IT WAS A FIX from "Wings" or SHE'S A BIGOT from the Sturgeon camp, it's good to see that The Telegraph still really, really understands Scottish politics- what clear-sighted and nuanced analysis:
Johnny Vodka
The Abominable Scotsman
Actually hoping for Humza, if only because that signals the membership are socially progressive. Fingers crossed.
danny la rouge
More like *fanny* la rouge!
It’s STV so second votes might fuck things up for “social progressives”.
JimW
支那暗杀团
Can't imagine any other telly station would have been interested.
steeplejack
trapped lbw for a duck
Humza by 6%. O well.
skyscraper101
0891 50 50 50
Regan looks well pissed off lol. Forbes smiling through the disappointment. Yousaf was always the saner choice but didn't expect it to be that close.
steeplejack
trapped lbw for a duck
Good to see wee Eck's glove puppet foundering quite so badly.
Fedayn
Well-Known Member
New ALBA leader in Holyrood?
steeplejack
trapped lbw for a duck
wouldn't surprise me
Johnny Vodka
The Abominable Scotsman
Spoilers!
steeplejack
trapped lbw for a duck
The SNP’s national secretary, Lorna Finn, announced that turnout in the party’s leadership election was 70%. For first preferences in the STV system, Yousaf took 24,336 (48%), Kate Forbes took 20,559 (40%) and Ash Regan 5,599 (11%) of the vote. When second preferences were distributed in the second stage, Yousaf took 26,032 (52%) and Forbes took 23,890 (48%).
Months of "what about the missing votes" Trumpery now from that wank Wings, and Unionist attack accounts on twitter. Humza is an underwhelming candidate appointed at a very difficult time for the SNP- their biggest moment of factionalism and division since the "79 Group" were expelled in the early 80s. The chances of his leadership being stable, let alone successful, seem remote.
Months of "what about the missing votes" Trumpery now from that wank Wings, and Unionist attack accounts on twitter. Humza is an underwhelming candidate appointed at a very difficult time for the SNP- their biggest moment of factionalism and division since the "79 Group" were expelled in the early 80s. The chances of his leadership being stable, let alone successful, seem remote.
