Side-by-side cycling

[Pickman's model]

Oh ffs stop it with this shit. Barefaced lying there

Cyclists don't pay road tax. Unless you know different, like

 

[Pickman's model]

Or vehicle excise duty

 

[Saul Goodman]

Cyclists don't pay road tax. Unless you know different, like

Exactly. I'd like to see someone show otherwise.
I don't see a lie.

 

[gentlegreen]

Cyclists don't pay road tax. Unless you know different, like

VED / these days basically a pollution tax.

 

[Pickman's model]

VED / these days basically a pollution tax.

Yeh which isn't paid by cyclists

 

[Saul Goodman]

Let's examine it.

We all know that the rules of the road do not apply to cyclists

True. even beesonthewhatnow was boasting about it upthread.

they don't pay road tax

True

don't have number plates

True

they are difficult to hold to account.

True

So, Orang Utan, where's the lie?

 

[maomao]

Yeh which isn't paid by cyclists

Most cyclists do pay vehicle excise duty.

 

[Pickman's model]

Most cyclists do pay vehicle excise duty.

Not as cyclists they don't

 

[Saul Goodman]

Most cyclists do pay vehicle excise duty.

I don't think law abiding motorists, who happen to own a bike, would like to be classed cyclists.

 

[beesonthewhatnow]

Bees was using the Mail for his material a short while ago

You seem to have missed the point of why I used the Mail. To help you out - when even they, a rabid, frothing right wing skip fire of a paper are publishing articles saying car drivers break the law more than cyclists, maybe you should accept you’re in the wrong.

 

[maomao]

I don't think law abiding motorists, who happen to own a bike, would like to be classed cyclists.

I've paid vehicle excise duty and I don't even have a driving license.

 

[Saul Goodman]

You seem to have missed the point of why I used the Mail. To help you out - when even they, a rabid, frothing right wing skip fire of a paper are publishing articles saying car drivers break the law more than cyclists, maybe you should accept you’re in the wrong.

Sorry, I don't read the Mail.

 

[Pickman's model]

You seem to have missed the point of why I used the Mail. To help you out - when even they, a rabid, frothing right wing skip fire of a paper are publishing articles saying car drivers break the law more than cyclists, maybe you should accept you’re in the wrong.

I wonder if these are the drivers who are also cyclists

 

[maomao]

Not as cyclists they don't

If they pay it 'as' anything they pay it 'as' taxpayers.

 

[Bahnhof Strasse]

I don't think law abiding motorists, who happen to own a bike, would like to be classed cyclists.

I would for VED purposes, costs a mint for my motor, yet I own a bike, so should really pay nothing.

 

[Saul Goodman]

I wonder if these are the drivers who are also cyclists

It would certainly make sense, but I'd consider them cyclists who are also drivers.

 

[Saul Goodman]

I would for VED purposes, costs a mint for my motor, yet I own a bike, so should really pay nothing.

I think I'd rather pay up.

 

[Saul Goodman]

Most cyclists do pay vehicle excise duty.

Do they pay road tax?

 

[maomao]

Do they pay road tax?

If by road tax you mean vehicle excise duty then yes. If you mean the parts of council tax and income tax that actually pay for roads then also yes.

 

[Saul Goodman]

If by road tax you mean vehicle excise duty then yes. If you mean the parts of council tax and income tax that actually pay for roads then also yes.

No, I mean road tax.

 

[hash tag]

The road tax whopper

in the post of mine in which you accused me of lying I did not mention road tax.

 

[Spymaster]

Spymaster, can you come on and say it wasn't, to balance the scales?

It wasn't

 

[Orang Utan]

It is a lie cos we all pay ‘road tax’ in the form of council tax and income tax

 

[maomao]

'Road tax' is the common name for VED. If it has some other meaning to you please do tell.

The Irish name for the same tax makes more sense. Motor tax. It also becomes clear why cyclists don't have to pay it.

 

[Saul Goodman]

It is a lie cos we all pay ‘road tax’ in the form of council tax and income tax

As cyclists like to smugly point out, there's no such thing as road tax, ergo, cyclists don't pay road tax.

 

[Orang Utan]

in the post of mine in which you accused me of lying I did not mention road tax.

You said ‘they don’t pay road tax’

 

[Saul Goodman]

You said ‘they don’t pay road tax’

Are you saying they do?

 

[maomao]

It is a lie cos we all pay ‘road tax’ in the form of council tax and income tax

And in fact subsidise motorway building and maintenance the full cost of which VED does not cover.

 

[Orang Utan]

Are you saying they do?

Yes, everyone pays for the upkeep of the roads

 

[maomao]

You said ‘they don’t pay road tax’

I wouldn't bother with that one.