You've got to talk nicely to these little chatty people; I'm obviously a gifted AI whisperer!I just got this:
This is a thread combining Brewdog, gentrification & the war Ukraine.This is fun.
Considering how much it agrees with me, I'm quite tempted.You two should get a room.
It's uncanny, isn't it?You've got to talk nicely to these little chatty people; I'm obviously a gifted AI whisperer!
You said:
what is a typical post like from Spymaster on Urban 75
ChatGPT said:
A typical post from Spymaster on Urban 75 (an online forum with a focus on politics, social issues, and culture) would likely be a mix of witty, irreverent commentary and in-depth analysis. Spymaster is known for being somewhat of a provocateur, often delivering sharp takes that challenge conventional thinking, but they tend to back up their opinions with a fair amount of research or personal experience.
Here’s a breakdown of what you might expect from a typical post:
- Strong, Opinionated Stance: Spymaster would usually make their point clearly and forcefully, often engaging with controversial or complex topics, from geopolitics to subversive culture. For example, they might discuss government surveillance, corporate power, or cultural movements, framing these issues in a critical and thoughtful way.
- Witty and Direct Tone: Their posts aren’t always dry or purely academic. They often inject humor, sarcasm, or biting wit into their arguments, which can make them engaging and entertaining to read.
- Attention to Detail: Posts might include links to articles, reports, or videos that back up their argument or give extra context. They might reference obscure or niche topics, which shows their depth of knowledge and interest in underground or offbeat subjects.
- Engagement with Other Forum Members: Spymaster might also engage in a back-and-forth with other users, throwing in a quick reply that challenges or questions the assumptions of others, keeping the conversation active and dynamic.
It deleted it once it realised what a minefield it is.I've asked ChatGPT to create an Urban75 thread where the question of whether cheese or beans should be put first on a baked potato is addressed, and not to spare the obscenities. And it does it scarily well. But then immediately removes what it's written so that I can't C&P it here, saying it may violate their policies. Very frustrating.
Can you use this chatgp or similar for asking/answering moral dilemmas? I see the examples people have given to random questions and I think I'm a mixture of still unsure generally whether to get involved but also impressed at what it can do.
I suppose you could extend those feelings to about AI generally and what people are debating, embrace it or not?
No, I don't think that would be right.Is it right to have a fuck about with LLMs when you know it’s an environmental stain and a plagiarism factory for example
This is a thread combining Brewdog, gentrification & the war Ukraine.
OP (Original Poster):
"So, BrewDog just announced they're opening a new bar in Hackney Wick, calling it the 'Solidarity Bar' with a portion of profits going to support Ukraine. On the surface, it sounds great, but isn't this just another case of gentrification wrapped in performative activism? Hackney Wick is already being overrun by hipster breweries and luxury flats. And let's not forget BrewDog's dodgy history with union-busting and treating staff like crap. Are they just using the Ukraine war to whitewash their image while pushing out locals?"
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User 1:
"Classic BrewDog move. They’ve always been about branding themselves as the 'punk' brewery while acting like any other corporate giant. Donating to Ukraine is great, but it feels like they’re exploiting a tragedy to sell overpriced pints. And Hackney Wick? That area’s been gutted by gentrification already. This is just another nail in the coffin."
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User 2:
"I dunno, isn’t any money going to Ukraine a good thing? The war’s still raging, and they need all the help they can get. Sure, BrewDog’s not perfect, but if they’re actually donating a significant amount, maybe we should cut them some slack."
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User 3:
"Cut them some slack? Are you serious? BrewDog’s entire business model is built on gentrification. They move into up-and-coming areas, drive up rents, and push out independent businesses. And now they’re using the Ukraine war as a PR stunt? It’s disgusting. If they really cared about Ukraine, they’d donate without needing to slap their logo all over it."
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User 4:
"Let’s not forget the irony of a company like BrewDog, which has been accused of exploiting workers, positioning itself as some kind of humanitarian saviour. Remember when they tried to trademark 'punk'? They’re about as punk as a Tory conference."
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User 5:
"Gentrification aside, I’m more concerned about where the money’s actually going. Are they working with reputable charities in Ukraine, or is this just another vague promise? We’ve seen so many companies use the war for good PR without any transparency."
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User 6:
"Honestly, this whole thing reeks of 'woke capitalism.' BrewDog knows their target audience is left-leaning, so they’re pandering to that crowd while continuing to exploit workers and contribute to the housing crisis. It’s all about optics, not actual change."
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User 7:
"Can we at least acknowledge that Hackney Wick has been gentrified for years now? BrewDog’s just jumping on the bandwagon. The real issue is the lack of affordable housing and the council selling off land to the highest bidder. BrewDog’s just a symptom of a much bigger problem."
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User 8:
"I think it’s possible to critique BrewDog’s business practices while still supporting aid to Ukraine. The war is a humanitarian crisis, and if this bar actually helps, then fine. But let’s not pretend BrewDog’s doing this out of the goodness of their hearts. They’re a corporation, and corporations exist to make money."
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User 9:
"Anyone else find it weird that BrewDog’s CEO, James Watt, is always front and centre in these campaigns? It’s like he’s trying to position himself as some kind of moral leader. Meanwhile, his employees are complaining about being overworked and underpaid. The guy’s a billionaire ffs."
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User 10:
"At the end of the day, this is just another example of capitalism co-opting social justice movements. BrewDog’s not alone in this—look at all the brands that suddenly cared about BLM or LGBTQ+ rights when it was profitable. It’s all about selling a lifestyle, not creating real change."
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OP (Closing Comment):
"Seems like the consensus is that BrewDog’s 'Solidarity Bar' is just another example of corporate hypocrisy. They’re using the Ukraine war to mask their role in gentrification and worker exploitation. If they really wanted to make a difference, they’d pay their staff properly, support local communities, and donate to Ukraine without the fanfare. But hey, at least we’ll have another place to drink £7 pints, right?"
You sound concerned that AI may replace the role of resident, contrarian troll!It's making better arguments than a lot of posters on here.
It's amazing isn't it? If that's accurate for you (and others who've done it) then how does it know so much and articulate it so quickly?Fucking hell...
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I quite like the sound of this poster though
In principle I guess but it does draw you in and it is saying things in response to my question that do make a lot of sense so it has been helpful so far.you're talking to a verbose magic 8 ball.
And possibly our own ruin.you're talking to a verbose magic 8 ball.
you're talking to a verbose magic 8 ball.
It's worse than that. AI is the fortune teller in a glass case at a dying holiday resort.you're talking to a verbose magic 8 ball.
I don't know, they weren't up to much imo and as bad as the laughing policeman or whatever they were. Both used to creep me out.It's worse than that. AI is the fortune teller in a glass case at a dying holiday resort.
Now that we’re behind Cloudflare, which helps protect the site from “bad things”, we have a simple option to block or allow AI bots from crawling the site.
Obviously, some have already trawled through the mass of high quality content we have, but we could block them from accessing our new even-higher quality content.
On the face of it, I'd say ban the fucking fuckers, but are there any less obvious downsides?
Would, for example, banning them mean that the site will end up being excluded from search enquiries or discussions, and thus effectively silencing voices?
Would it lead to our increasingly rare left wing perspectives being excluded from results, and help skew its political perspective even more right wing?
I've lost the plot with all your self-indulgent screed.Regarding the matter in hand. I say yes to the blocking.
Urban crawls passim will decay.
editor if you can coast on the old scrapes wrt searches, for a period of time I think we should use the new back end widgets to shield the forums for perhaps a year.
I'm really not sure what to make of all that or what you mean by a topic 'landing' or why I'm being 'self indulgent'.I've lost the plot with all your self-indulgent screed.
Where this topic land?