No "The AI bubble has finally burst" thread?

[Bahnhof Strasse]

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Ask it why Hong Kong's gone to the dogs in recent years.

 

[BigMoaner]

Tech people creating the tech that will take their jobs so hey better get rich in the process!

 

[newme]

. nope im wrong lol read the wrong number

 

[tommers]

That £6 million figure isn't true though. That was just the last bit of it.

 

[two sheds]

Well they went up about 700% in two years, so I imagine "quite a lot".

ta - see, with urban resources we don't need AI at all

 

[BigMoaner]

In layman’s terms, what does open source mean, its market effect? Thanks

 

[editor]

One thing's for sure: this isn't lke the dot.bomb crash of the early 2000s.

AI is going to keep on growing, loads of people are gfoing to lose their jobs and billionaires are going to keep on exploiting it to screw everyone else over.

 

[Yossarian]

Ask it why Hong Kong's gone to the dogs in recent years.

That was a screenshot that's been widely shared, no way am I downloading Deepseek

Somebody got this response to a Hong Kong question:

 

[TopCat]

In layman’s terms, what does open source mean, its market effect? Thanks

It’s free. So undermines anyone selling similar for loads of money. Why pay?

 

[BigMoaner]

It’s free. So undermines anyone selling similar for loads of money. Why pay?

the code that created it is free or it’s free to use or both?

 

[TopCat]

Huge sums have been spent by US companies on AI. All predicated on selling their output for loads of money. Now they and their model is undermined (fucked).

 

[Yossarian]

 

[two sheds]

do you have to download the virus program or can you just ask questions into the website?

 

[bcuster]

this will be like the dotbomb of 1999. the market will adjust and be back in no time

 

[BigMoaner]

Find it fascinating how undemocratic capitalism is. Here’s AI, here’s its mass roll out, just get on with it please.

 

[The39thStep]

It's just scanning through your past mails, once it ascertains you've never said anything negative about the CCP it'll be back online

Jesus, let's hope they take my 'don't think China is a socialist state' line kindly

 

[bcuster]

Jesus, let's hope they take my 'don't think China is a socialist state' line kindly

Like other AI startups, including Anthropic and Perplexity, DeepSeek released various competitive AI models over the past year that have captured some industry attention. Its V3 model raised some awareness about the company, although its content restrictions around sensitive topics about the Chinese government and its leadership sparked doubts about its viability as an industry competitor, the Wall Street Journal reported.

https://www.cnn.com/2025/01/27/tech/deepseek-ai-explainer/index.html

 

[BigMoaner]

They’re all going to run for the hills, aren’t they.

 

[tommers]

the code that created it is free or it’s free to use or both?

Open Source means that the code is public and accessible by anybody. Usually anybody can contribute to it and make changes and it's all free. It's basically socialism.

Lots of companies open source their work and then monetise it by adding services on top, or having paid tiers of support or extra features.

I don't think Deepseek have published everything but a lot of it is available.

OpenAI was Open Source to start with but then went to Closed Source.

Open-source software - Wikipedia

en.m.wikipedia.org

 

[magneze]

In layman’s terms, what does open source mean, its market effect? Thanks

Anyone can relatively freely use it to build something. Shoots a big old hole in OpenAI's business plan amongst others.

 

[BigMoaner]

China pulls the rug!

Hillarious. Massive big pint of Couldn’t Give A Fuck

 

[bcuster]

They’re all going to run for the hills, aren’t they.

A couple of venture capital firms will

 

[tommers]

this will be like the dotbomb of 1999. the market will adjust and be back in no time

Yes, this is probably true.

 

[BigMoaner]

Open Source means that the code is public and accessible by anybody. Usually anybody can contribute to it and make changes and it's all free. It's basically socialism.

Lots of companies open source their work and then monetise it by adding services on top, or having paid tiers of support or extra features.

I don't think Deepseek have published everything but a lot of it is available.

OpenAI was Open Source to start with but then went to Closed Source.

Open-source software - Wikipedia

en.m.wikipedia.org

Thank you. And the yanks were locking it all up under lock and key I guess?

 

[bcuster]

Yes, this is probably true.

A down day today, not severely so...

 

[tommers]

I don't know who this guy is but this is a very thorough and quite long summary of what's going on

DeepSeek FAQ

DeepSeek has completely upended people’s expectations for AI and competition with China. What is it, and why does it matter?

stratechery.com

 

[The39thStep]

Like other AI startups, including Anthropic and Perplexity, DeepSeek released various competitive AI models over the past year that have captured some industry attention. Its V3 model raised some awareness about the company, although its content restrictions around sensitive topics about the Chinese government and its leadership sparked doubts about its viability as an industry competitor, the Wall Street Journal reported.

https://www.cnn.com/2025/01/27/tech/deepseek-ai-explainer/index.html

I think I can live with that if true tbh

 

[BigMoaner]

Sorry to be annoying but so:

American companies have designed a flying car but have kept the design plans and secrets to itself. And they want to sell lots of these cars.

Vs

A Chinese company have designed a flying car, have published the designs of said car and are giving the cars away for free.

Is that an accurate summary?

 

[tommers]

Sorry to be annoying but so:

America have designed a flying car but have kept the design plans and secrets to itself. And they want to sell lots of these cars.

Vs

China have designed a flying car, have published the designs of said car and are giving the cars away for free.

Is that an accurate summary?

Yeah pretty much.

The costs are also less precisely because the US stopped them getting hold of the decent engines, so they had to find ways to do the same thing with cheaper bits. China also probably copied the designs that the US spent billions designing.

 

[two sheds]

Yeah pretty much.

The costs are also less precisely because the US stopped them getting hold of the decent engines, so they had to find ways to do the same thing with cheaper bits. China also probably copied the designs that the US spent billions designing.

they would have presumably copied open source code though?