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Fuck the NHS staff, brilliant good point.. haha.
Should the Covid vaccine be mandatory?
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NoXion
Craicy the Squirrel
I'm still not convinced that mandating vaccines for the general public is the way to go. I am however red-hot on the idea of requiring vaccinations under certain conditions, e.g. for continued employment as a nurse, doctor, or care worker. These people are required to work with clinically vulnerable people as part of their normal duties, and thus refusing to take a vaccination (without legitimate medical exemptions) that has had literally billions of doses given with at worst only minor side effects, is quite simply an unreasonable and unwarranted dereliction of said duties.
For similar reasons, if a private company or organisation wishes to protect their customers/clients by requiring that their workers be up to date on their shots, then that too is fine by me.
I thought the idea behind the clapping was a recognition that these people were putting themselves at risk to help others? Not blind hero worship? So if a minority (and they are a minority) of these healthcare workers are prioritising shit-tier Facebook memes composed by Russian agents over the health of their patients, why the fuck should we not pour scorn on them?
For similar reasons, if a private company or organisation wishes to protect their customers/clients by requiring that their workers be up to date on their shots, then that too is fine by me.
I thought the idea behind the clapping was a recognition that these people were putting themselves at risk to help others? Not blind hero worship? So if a minority (and they are a minority) of these healthcare workers are prioritising shit-tier Facebook memes composed by Russian agents over the health of their patients, why the fuck should we not pour scorn on them?
kebabking
Not a Girly Swot, but I like them....
Mate, if you think having some anti-vaxx nutcase honking off at me causes me anything but amusement, I have some disappointing news for you.
This thread is for discussion about NHS vaccine mandate, you are the one playing Billy big balls all over it . Nice one. We know how you feel now.
NoXion
Craicy the Squirrel
Even if you don't believe that the Russians are sticking their oar into the situation (which seems a little naive but whatever), it's still the case that billions of doses of Covid vaccine have been safely administered across the globe, so there is no reasonable grounds for health workers to object to vaccine mandates.
kebabking
Not a Girly Swot, but I like them....
Yes, I'm not sure you understand how this whole 'writing stuff down so people can read it' thing works - I wrote this stuff down because I want people to read it and know how I feel.
It's not some fantastically impressive effort at truthing that you've uncovered what I think, it's just called reading.
NoXion
Craicy the Squirrel
I support the sacking of health workers who refuse to take reasonable steps to protect their patients, yes. Don't you?
I don't think the Russians are behind the protest against mandatory vaccinations for NHS staff. And you claim others are nutters ha.
Fuck you on about Russians then?
I support health care workers having the same rights as patients
NoXion
Craicy the Squirrel
Fucking awful answer. Health care workers have a duty of care, patients do not.
Informed consent not coersion is a pretty fucking strong answer.
NoXion
Craicy the Squirrel
They can consent not to take the vax. But that doesn't mean they should be allowed to put patients at risk. Kind of like how there are laws mandating seatbelts. Your pathetic maunderings about "freedumb" are not more important than not crushing the person sitting in the seat in front of you.
kebabking
Not a Girly Swot, but I like them....
Informed consent is about the right to make choices, and choices have consequences - good ones, and bad ones.
It's not the right to make choices that have no consequences for the chooser, but potentially bad ones for everyone else.
People have the absolute right to choose not to have the vaccine, what they don't have is the right to work in a particular field, or walk into a room with someone so vunerable that if they were to catch covid, they'd probably die .
NoXion
Craicy the Squirrel
I see, you're playing games.
Shechemite
Be the sun and all will see you
Not sure if this Shechemite character is being serious or not. 'Petit-Bourgeoisie'? Really?
Doctors aren’t middle class?
NoXion
Craicy the Squirrel
How the fuck does that follow? Do you think because Omicron is being called "mild" in the press that it's somehow no longer a serious disease? Or do you not realise that its increased infectiousness makes vaccination more important, not less?
Griff
Feeding the foxes
I'd imagine the majority of NHS workers there weren't doctors.
Put in a way you understand. The seatbelt doesn't matter when your car won't start.
NoXion
Craicy the Squirrel
Instead of torturing the analogy further, why don't you just come out and say it directly?
Shechemite
Be the sun and all will see you
That’s good to know. Whats this got to do with my post?
Shechemite
Be the sun and all will see you
Quite hard to sack and/or strike off patients in any case, so I’m not sure what rights IC3D is referring to
Its perfectly clear and been spelt out for you. You disagree than that's fine by me.
Griff
Feeding the foxes
Shechemite
Be the sun and all will see you
Yep, I’m the weirdo
Call to delay compulsory Covid vaccines for NHS staff
The Royal College of GPs asks for a national conversation on mandating jabs, as protests are held in UK cities.
www.bbc.co.uk
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