D'wards
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Its a brave new direction for the lads, but I'm sure Pete and Rog are up to it
Should people in "the live arts" do another job until this blows over?
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Mrs Miggins
It’s all happening tomorrow
My Significant Other applied for around 400 jobs, mostly in the field he works in, before finally getting one so good luck to anyone trying to get a job at this time in an area where they have no experience. It's a bloody ludicrous suggestion.
Septimus Rufiji
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I believe there's a shortage of boxers at the moment and the government is keen to get people into that particular line of work.
littlebabyjesus
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SpookyFrank
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There is one job you don't need any qualifications for, or any relevant experience, or any references, or really anything at all that shows you're not in the bottom 1% of mankind on any metric you care to name.
I don't really need to put the punchline here do I?
I don't really need to put the punchline here do I?
Mrs Miggins
It’s all happening tomorrow
Strongly suggests that the Powers That Be do not consider jobs in the arts to be real jobs.
"Why are you pissing about being a ballet dancer Fatima? Get a proper bloody job why don't you"
"Why are you pissing about being a ballet dancer Fatima? Get a proper bloody job why don't you"
littlebabyjesus
one of Maxwell's demons
I was answering these two questions, not the thread title. Cheers for the weird dig tho.
littlebabyjesus
one of Maxwell's demons
Years of really fucking hard training, dedication and sacrifice, or just prancing around in funny clothes?
Mrs Miggins
It’s all happening tomorrow
Apparently so...bit of a hoo-har going on and it's been withdrawn but it illustrates the attitudes perfectly.
I've been hearing the words "viable jobs" for months now. Implying that the kinds of jobs that will be lost are not "viable jobs". Jobs like these I imagine.
I’d take that as a compliment mate.
littlebabyjesus
one of Maxwell's demons
It's not a job, though, is it? It's a glorified hobby.
They clearly have no fucking idea how hard it is to get good enough at something like ballet to make any kind of a living out of it. Nah, go and do data entry instead. Antihuman wankers.
Mrs Miggins
It’s all happening tomorrow
Ooh actually it's even worse than I thought
And even if you look at it in purely financial terms, the arts bring in a whole load of money. (Not sure how much related stuff like restaurants/bars near theatres/venues are included in the numbers.)
Contribution of the arts and culture industry to the UK economy | Arts Council England
www.artscouncil.org.uk
littlebabyjesus
one of Maxwell's demons
The Tory Party, crushing people's dreams since 1842 
Artaxerxes
Look out, he's got a gnu!
What jobs can people do right now? Amazon driver?
More important tell me where it doesn't need qualifications and training because offering cyber-security requires at the very least a good knowledge of computing and for bonus points decent coding ability.
What jobs?
More important tell me where it doesn't need qualifications and training because offering cyber-security requires at the very least a good knowledge of computing and for bonus points decent coding ability.
What jobs?
littlebabyjesus
one of Maxwell's demons
Fatima needs to give up on her silly little girl ideas and train herself in something useful for the real world instead.
That's the subtext. These aren't proper jobs. This isn't the real world.
Fuck you, Fatima!
Can you imagine that a team came up with that concept, designed it, signed it off, published it, and no one stopped it and said ‘hey mates, this is an absolute fucking insult to all the thousands of people who have seen their livelihoods and careers destroyed’. The mind actually boggles.
tim
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In the short term there are few jobs anywhere. In the longer term, unlike sectors such as retail, financial services and administration, the "creative sector" is one that actually still needs humans.
And I can't actually see many of those being targeted succumbing to cyberian charms as they've already chosen to devote themselves to a career that lacks stability and renumerative salaries.
And I can't actually see many of those being targeted succumbing to cyberian charms as they've already chosen to devote themselves to a career that lacks stability and renumerative salaries.
scifisam
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A lot of the arts jobs can't really be done part-time to the level audiences demand, either. Ballerinas do need to practise hours every day, and can't just sack it off for a year or two and then get back into it.
And ballet and dance provide skills for other people in the performing arts, which, until this year, was actually a pretty viable industry in the UK. And it's not like nobody's never going to want to watch an action movie where a ballet-trained actor or stunt person executes moves that make us wonder at the limits of human possibility. We're going to need that.
Ballerinas are fucking hardcore, too. They dance till their toes bleed and smile while they do it, and their arms are made of steel girders. If there's ever a revolution, I would very much want them on my side.
TBF, it was part of a recruitment drive last year, and included people in other jobs. It was still clueless then.
Though actually most of those other jobs were things like warehouse worker, which has turned out to be essential, necessary and probably way more secure than almost any other job.
And ballet and dance provide skills for other people in the performing arts, which, until this year, was actually a pretty viable industry in the UK. And it's not like nobody's never going to want to watch an action movie where a ballet-trained actor or stunt person executes moves that make us wonder at the limits of human possibility. We're going to need that.
Ballerinas are fucking hardcore, too. They dance till their toes bleed and smile while they do it, and their arms are made of steel girders. If there's ever a revolution, I would very much want them on my side.
TBF, it was part of a recruitment drive last year, and included people in other jobs. It was still clueless then.
Though actually most of those other jobs were things like warehouse worker, which has turned out to be essential, necessary and probably way more secure than almost any other job.
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Saul Goodman
It's all good, man
Apparently it was an ad from 2019.
littlebabyjesus
one of Maxwell's demons
Well the fact it's pre-covid makes more sense, although it makes it no better. If anything, the intent is worse. The ad is telling Fatima that her dreams of being a ballerina are over for good.
You're not good enough, Fatima. Forget about it. Give up now and get yourself a computer.
But it obviously illustrates the wider point right now. How do we keep dancers going until live performances start again? How do we avoid losing all these skills for good? Govt has no answers to that, clearly.
editor
hiraethified
I've got a workable solution: tax the cunting rich so that they ensure that arts industry can survive.
They'll still have millions left to buy the garish lifestyle shit they're addicted to, and they'll be doing something actually useful for once in their pathetic, self-interested, self-serving, greedy lives.
They'll still have millions left to buy the garish lifestyle shit they're addicted to, and they'll be doing something actually useful for once in their pathetic, self-interested, self-serving, greedy lives.
FridgeMagnet
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You know I was being sarcastic when I said that don't you
Artaxerxes
Look out, he's got a gnu!
If we're going with cyber as a word people actually use then I suppose it's correct that OnlyFans is a growth industry but I wouldn't expect the government to encourage it.
editor
hiraethified
Bit more info
www.theguardian.com
Government scraps ballet dancer reskilling ad criticised as 'crass'
Culture secretary distanced himself from widely mocked poster amid job losses in arts
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