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e2a: there's little shops round here which also deliver, so you might find you don't need to rely on the tescos and sainsbury's for stuff. in fact from what i've seen wandering round the last six weeks you'd be better going to the independent shops which have been more consistently stocked than the prominent chains
 
www.meassociation.org.uk

Covid-19 and Post-viral Fatigue Syndrome by Dr Charles Shepherd | 30 April 2020 - The ME Association

Post-viral fatigue is being reported following Covid-19 infection. We explain the issue and offer best management guidance.
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Post Viral Fatigue can occur after a serious viral outbreak, post Swine Flu, it can be very very debilitating and my years of experience and decent medical advice, is not to push on, but to rest, in some cases people will get M.E, the national charities are being contacted by post covids who are displaying all the usual symptoms of PVF, and in some cases, M.E and indeed Fibromylagia . They have published some useful advice above even if not M.E but Post viral.
 
Travel advice

Should I cancel my summer 2020 package holiday?

Given the disruption facing holidaymakers at the moment, you may be tempted to just cancel now. Don’t. If you cancel your booking now you’ll lose all the money you’ve already paid and/or have to pay a cancellation fee. And you won’t be able to claim for this on your travel insurance as it’s classed as a ‘disinclination to travel’. If you wait for the holiday to be cancelled by the holiday provider, on the other hand, you’ll be entitled to a full refund.

Holiday providers are only applying the FCO indefinite ban on travel to ‘imminent’ bookings (a term for which there is no legal definition) on the basis that the FCO advice could change at any time.

If you have a holiday booked in the summer, the provider is likely to wait until closer to the time to see if the FCO advice is still in place. If it is, your holiday will be cancelled and you should be offered a refund. But if it’s not, you’ll be required to pay for the holiday regardless of whether you want to go on it or not. Only consider cancelling your holiday now if you have decided you definitely don’t want to take the holiday anymore and you’re sure you can reclaim any losses from your travel insurer. If the FCO advice against all non-essential travel is still in place up to 28 days prior to your departure, you may be able to cancel the holiday and claim back the cost from your insurer.

This isn’t straightforward, though, so make sure you check the cancellation section of your insurance policy first. It’s also a good idea to call your insurer and ask them to confirm in writing that your understanding of that part of the policy is correct.
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www.which.co.uk

Coronavirus: will my summer holiday go ahead? Should I cancel? - Which? News

Find out whether you should reschedule a disrupted holiday or cancel holidays booked for later in the year
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And:

Major holiday providers that have updated their policies on amending bookings include:

Audley Travel – the destination and date of bookings can be changed for free up to 31 days before departure

British Airways Holidays – bookings departing before the end of May can be exchanged for vouchers, or the destination and date can be changed for free

EasyJet Holidays – holidays scheduled between May and August can be amended for free (holidays departing on or before 15 May have been cancelled)

Great Rail Journeys – free postponement on all holidays scheduled for after 9 June (holidays departing before 9 June have been cancelled)

Inntravel – free date amendments or deferral for holidays scheduled from 30 June (holidays before then have been cancelled)

Riviera – flexible amendment policy applies to all travel scheduled until 31 May (holidays after 31 May are currently set to go ahead as planned)

Saga – travel booked up to the end of August 2020 can be amended or postponed to 2021 for free (all bookings up to 1 July have been cancelled)

Titan Travel – departure date and destination can be amended for free on all travel scheduled up to the end of August 2020 (holidays up to July 1 have been cancelled)

Trailfinders – bookings up to 31 August can be amended for free (bookings up to 14 June have been cancelled)

Tui – holiday bookings made before 17 March can be amended for free on all travel before 11 July 2020 (this also applies to First Choice bookings). Amends can be made up to 31 July for Marella Cruises

Read more: Coronavirus: will my summer holiday go ahead? Should I cancel? – Which? News - Which?
 
frogwoman said:
Lots of airlines are offering free rebooking.
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There is some opinion that the likes of Ryanair are starting to fly again in order to offer 'replacement' rather than refund.

The airlines will offer anything to get some money/commitment and to try and keep scared people engaged with travel.
 
Interesting piece

COVID-19 has mounted a sustained attack on public life, especially indoor life. Many of the largest super-spreader events took place inside—at a church in South Korea, an auditorium in France, a conference in Massachusetts.

The danger of the indoors is more than anecdotal. A Hong Kong paper awaiting peer review found that of 7,324 documented cases in China, only one outbreak occurred outside—during a conversation among several men in a small village. The risk of infection indoors is almost 19 times higher than in open-air environments, according to another study from researchers in Japan.
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www.theatlantic.com

Social Distancing Is Not Enough

We will need a comprehensive strategy to reduce the sort of interactions that can lead to more infections.
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So keep away from shouty types and bloody singers:

Some people—known as “superemitters”—release more particles into the air when they speak, because they are unusually loud or slobbery talkers. But even normal gabbers can release an exceptional number of droplets if they’re singing or theatrically projecting their voice.
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“To avoid clustering at the hot-dog stands, stadium food vendors should serve as much as possible directly to people’s seats,” Allen said.

Wont that put them at a greater risk of infection? Although if its outside maybe not?
 
Divorced couple with school age kids both have PR, one parent says wait until September other says go back now neither willing to budge. What happens now? Any ideas? Can't find anything in guidance.
 
krink said:
Divorced couple with school age kids both have PR, one parent says wait until September other says go back now neither willing to budge. What happens now? Any ideas? Can't find anything in guidance.
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Is there a primary care giver? Or do the children live at least part of the school week with the other?

If there is a primary care giver with whom the children live in the school week then that person can decide unless the other goes to court.

If they share parental care in the week then unless there is a court order. One should keep the children and then the other has to go to court.

Im not a lawyer.
 
krink said:
one has the kids 3 school days, the other two
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Sad times. They need to try and decide whats best for the children between themselves unless one decides to keep hold of the children, which I believe would be legal in the absence of a court order.

They could see it suits one child but not the other and temporarily keep them separate.

I understand only certain age children are currently going back right now.

I’d be inclined to keep them off unless the suffering is going to be great unless they go in. Especially as its only a short time until summer.
 
I have been working for the past week and a bit in a supermarket, picking orders for click and. collect and home delivery. I do the 2.30am to 8.30am shift to reduce public contact.

What I see at work concerns me, and I would urge any of you using home delivery to treat with caution the goods delivered to you and the bags they arrive in. Wash everything you can in soapy water. Then wash the surfaces where you set down the bags and goods in the first place.

At work there is no social distancing behind the scenes. The managers and workers employed at that hour mostly lack any caution. The pace of work prevents people hanging around in groups, but no one keeps their distance when talking to another, nor when reaching for an item right next to where someone else in working.

PPE and sanitiser gels are available but almost no one uses them. I have seen no cleansing of any item of equipment which several different workers will handle during the course of the day: crates, trolleys, scanner guns. The hands that hold those are the same ones that pick the multipack of crisps you swear will last more than a day this time.

Although the virus can't live for very long at all on many kinds of surface, from memory it seems more resilient on smooth plastic - like the kind a big proportion of supermarket goods come packaged in. Be careful!
 
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Doodler said:
I have been working for the past week and a bit in a supermarket, picking orders for click and. collect and home delivery. I do the 2.30am to 8.30am shift to reduce public contact.

What I see at work concerns me, and I would urge any of you using home delivery to treat with caution the goods delivered to you and the bags they arrive in. Wash everything you can in soapy water. Then wash the surfaces where you set down the bags and goods is the first place.

At work there is no social distancing behind the scenes. The managers and workers employed at that hour mostly lack any caution. The pace of work prevents people hanging around in groups, but no one keeps their distance when talking to another, nor when reaching for an item right next to where someone else in working.

PPE and sanitiser gels are available but almost no one uses them. I have seen no cleansing of any item of equipment which several different workers will handle during the course of the day: crates, trolleys, scanner guns. The hands that hold those are the same ones that handle the multipack of crisps you really mean to make last more than a day.

Although the virus can't live for very long at all on many kinds of surface, from memory it seems more resilient on smooth plastic - like the kind a big proportion of supermarket goods come packaged in. Be careful!
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You know what....? That's really interesting. My boyfriend came down with COVID and we have no idea how he caught it as he has barely left the house since lockdown began. He HAS had a lot of groceries delivered though. Hmmmm........
 
Mrs Miggins said:
You know what....? That's really interesting. My boyfriend came down with COVID and we have no idea how he caught it as he has barely left the house since lockdown began. He HAS had a lot of groceries delivered though. Hmmmm........
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I guess the chances are very low indeed for any single item having enough virions stuck on it to be a threat. On the other hand, a shopper might order a dozen packaged items at a time, twice a week. That's a hundred goes on the lottery each month.
 
Doodler said:
I guess the chances are very low indeed for any single item having enough virions stuck on it to be a threat. On the other hand, a shopper might order a dozen packaged items at a time, twice a week. That's a hundred goes on the lottery each month.
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Who knows! He didn't do anything stupid but he caught it. Could have been grocery deliveries.
 
Buddy Bradley said:
We've been wiping down everything that comes into the house from outside with soapy or bleachy water ever since lockdown began, if not a little beforehand. Everyone should be.
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I really haven't been doing that. All the handwashing and not touching anything/touching my face but I haven't been wiping down every item that enters my flat.
 
If you want to minimise risk (zero risk can not be achieved): Extract fruit, veg from wrapping cellophane (if necessary, almost always with supermarket deliveries) and wash then store (I would wash such before consumption normally anyway; washing prior to storage isn't a major change). Wipe down water impervious items or set them aside, with the items likely to be damaged by water, for at least 3 days. Wash hands before, during and after. Seems fairly straightforward to me.
 
Mrs Miggins said:
Maybe I should! I'm not sick yet though
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Buddy Bradley said:
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yeah yeah I know :p

Just being devil's avocado innit.
Should get myself some more wipes and wipe stuff down as I bring it in. I know. Which is why I said "the thought does occur to me that that is the one area where I am not minimsing risk"
 
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