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http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/world/middle_east/7096814.stm
The story is actualy that the sentence was doubled on appeal. But as much as people keep saying it is a pretty backward society it can be pretty shocking when confronted with the realities of it.

I can see nothing in this to defend but it is worth highlighting round the world so that, perhaps, at some level the conscious of the Saudi public and regime is pricked.

Although this will only feed Islamophobia in the UK and round the world.
 
:(. Yes. How much we have in common with SA (thinking of the state visit a couple of weeks ago and all the platitudes they were coming out with.
 
Friends Of The West

This is really bad.

They have done worse allowing loads of schoolgirls to burn to death in a building because they did'nt have the right clothes to cover their body.

Because they are our allies, a a fair percentage of the American GDP is invested in Saudi Arabia, there is no chance of any 'Regime Change' for the House Of Saud.
 
I can't wait until the day that the scum and vermin that run that regime are strung up from Riyadh's highest lamposts. Paracitical filth.
 
The wonder of Sharia law.
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But who cares as long they've got that black gold the west is so desperate for..
 
Nigel said:
Because they are our allies, a a fair percentage of the American GDP is invested in Saudi Arabia, there is no chance of any 'Regime Change' for the House Of Saud.
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It's actually ironic that they are our allies, considering all the rhetoric about Iran and terrorism of late. The actual terrorist threat to the West comes in the shape of Sunni extremism, funded mainly by Saudis. But that was only an issue it seems when they wanted an excuse to attack Iraq. Now they want an excuse to attack Iran they don't care about Sunni extremism, even tho the threat is the same as after 9/11 and very real.

Even more ironic is that the Neoconservatives detest Saudi Arabia and do consider it to be a threat and an enemy and support taking a hostile approach to the country, but the old skool Republicans can't see past Saudi Arabia's petrodollars, and they are the ones back in power in the White House...
 
As i understand things, it isn't simply the fact that Sunni preachers have the advantage in SA, it's also the case that Wahabism as the prevalent version of that strand of thinking is paramount atm. So the need to challenge a theology that is regressive in attitudes towards woman, for example, should be foremost.
 
Saudi actually gets my vote for the very worst country in the world for justice, ahead of the likes of afghanistan and pakistan. Burma and n korea are up there, but at least the injustice is gender-blind there.

For being in a car with a man, you get punished in such a way that a man will stand there with a huge fuck-off whip, and, with the woman in front of him with her back bared to the flesh, he shall whip this woman, not once, but 200times.

Barbaric and grotesque is the nearest i can get to describing it with language. What a truly disgusting society. Isn't it the same society that happily allows relatives to stone daughters to death if they sleep with a man?

You've gotta actually sit down and really imagine what's going on here, really think about it. A big man with an appalling whip lashing a defenceless woman who's been raped several time 200 times, half turning her into a raw lump of meat, never mind the dreadful damage mentally. And you gotta sit down and think how can people, cousins, fathers, brothers, throw stones at a young woman from their very own family. Throw stones at her head, body, enough times until she collapses and finally dies this torturous death.

It is by far the sickest society, with the sickest men in the world.
 
In Pakistan there is still the administration of gang rape as a punishment for having an affair. Not too mention honour killings.That part of there justice system sounds more like a bad porn movie.

But of all the countries in the world over the next 15 years, Saudi is just about the last one I would want too be in. Perhaps only the future of Iraq is as bleak and even there it has a very weak but functioning democracy so has the means of its own people getting them out of the hole they are in. There population until a few years ago was being reasonably well educated. Unfortunately a Yugoslavia style break up seems on the cards.

But the Saudis have turned huge wealth into poverty by such an increadible increase in per capita that they have gone from Scotland to nearly the same population as England. They have fallen spectacularly in terms of per capita income and all the while have not really put an education system in place to prepair for the eventual slowing of the flow of oil.

There own religious system internally seems to be radicalising there own youth, who are often unemployed poor and bored in a country run by mega wealthy elites who flaunt the values of there religion.

Bahrain and Dubai have shown what can be done with oil wealth in terms of prepairing for tomorrow. Far from perfect but they clearly realise it is a wasting asset and tomorrow will eventualy come. Except for Saudi Aramco and an enormous petrochemical processing comapany Saudi has not developed an industrial base to build on and will in years to come have to keep its oil and gas to keep the desalinators running. It is a dessert supporting a much wetter and more fertile countries population. Unlike Egypt whos people know they are an inherantly poor country, and with the right leadership could probibly grow economically like Indonesia or India, Saudis people have been disenfranchised from staggering wealth.

And the Jihadi's from Iraq will come home, just as they did from Afghanistan. Angry, proud, bitter men who know how to fight a super power.
 
Paulie Tandoori said:
As i understand things, it isn't simply the fact that Sunni preachers have the advantage in SA, it's also the case that Wahabism as the prevalent version of that strand of thinking is paramount atm. So the need to challenge a theology that is regressive in attitudes towards woman, for example, should be foremost.
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That's all very well but Saudi Arabia operates a 'dual government' if you will. The government that the outside world is exposed to is the reformist, moderate Crown Prince Abdullah. He contols the diplomatic service and the economy (hence the oil money and hence hsi friendship with America and, another hence, why America praises Saudi Arabia for the "progress" they are making towards "democracy" :eek:). Opposed to Crown Prince Abdullah is Prince Nayef, head of the Interior. He is deeply religious (Wahabbi), controls the religious police, sets all the harsh laws and generally opposes any reforms or moderation. He is sympathetic to al-Qaida and funds the Wahhabi madrassas around the world. Both parts of government seem quite happy with the arrangement - Abdullah (and America) get rich of the oil, while Nayef gets to spread his retarded ideology at home (and abroad).

So altho Abdullah would like to implement his reforms, he is constantly opposed by Nayef. So it's not just as clear cut as saying the government should "challenge a theology that is regressive in attitudes towards woman" because that IS the government that is the theology that is regressive in its attitudes towards women.

And I agree completely with fela fan - Saudi Arabia is right up there with Burma and North Korea as one of the most vicious evil regimes in the world. And I cannot stand it when America praises Saudi Arabia for progress towards democracy, when democracy is none existant in the country, but condemns Iran for being undemocratic even tho women and minorities get the vote (hell, they even have elections!).

Don't even ask about how Shi'ites are treated in Saudi Arabia...
 
JoePolitix said:
I can't wait until the day that the scum and vermin that run that regime are strung up from Riyadh's highest lamposts. Paracitical filth.
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Absolutely. Filth.
 
I’d love to see an international campaign of a similar vein to the old anti-apartheid movement to isolate the Saudi regime as a pariah state. Not just because of its appalling human rights abuses but also because it threatens the lives and security of all of us. It’s the epicentre of world terrorism:

http://www.timesonline.co.uk/tol/news/world/middle_east/article2801017.ece

I don’t see any evidence that diplomatic pressure on the Saudi regime has yielded any positive results. The House of Saud’s justification for its rule is rooted in its alliance with the Wahabbists. As a result its attitude to religious extremism will be ambivalence at best.

While the petrodollars keep flowing we can’t expect our governments to take a stand against the dictatorship without pressure.

Has anybody got any ideas?
 
I lived in Saudia Arabia for a year, Ryidah, Jeddah and Western Province and its one hell of a fucked up country. When I was in Ryidah the police used to make a point of rounding the Ex Pats that were in the streets to view the Be headings. There was some bloke that had raped someone, first they gave him 300 lashes THEN they excuted him :eek: :eek: :(
TBH we used just stay on the compound
 
What I'm disgusted at is that the young men who fucked her were punished.

This harlot was clearly leading them on being in the same car as men whom she was not related to - she was asking for it!
 
Johnny Canuck2 said:
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It's so outrageous, you can't really do much but laugh in amazement at it.

I suppose the other option is to declare holy war.:rolleyes:
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My joke is funnier and in a lot worse taste.
 
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