tony.c
Well-Known Member
No, iirc.
Rock Against Racism 2024 Edition
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danny la rouge
I have a cheese grater in the dishwasher.
Yes. I like IDLES. Fuck the king.
tony.c
Well-Known Member
Wasn't in the 70s. I suppose it depends on who the bands are.
Voley
Joyful and Recumbent
Their recent Glastonbury set was fucking great. Ideal band for this.
tony.c
Well-Known Member
I've never heard of IDLES.
danny la rouge
I have a cheese grater in the dishwasher.
I've never heard of IDLES.
belboid
Exasperated, not angry.
Live Aid was explicitly about raising money, though. Not really a good comparison. Not too mention that Live Aid had almost zero artists of colour involved - as they wouldn't help raise money.
ska invita
back on the other side
Live Aid was designed to raise funds...this is designed to change the cultural norms of the country. It needs to be mass to work. Idles already play gigs for money. How does doing another ticketed Idles gig under a different banner make any difference to anything?
ska invita
back on the other side
Also rock music is old hat.... Donk Against Racism might have a better chance. Grime Against Racism too
danny la rouge
I have a cheese grater in the dishwasher.
It needs to be “Rock Against I Have Legitimate Concerns”. Because most people think they’re not racist anyway.
danny la rouge
I have a cheese grater in the dishwasher.
It is funny ska invita
ska invita
back on the other side
yes .. but sad too ... ive put the smiley back
belboid
Exasperated, not angry.
well, thats why, despite the last Guardian headline, it isn't RAR reborn, its LMHR doing what they'd been doing (occasionally) for fifteen-twenty years.
colacubes
Mr Hot Cookie
They did loads of stuff around then. I did some voluntary stuff with them mid 2000s - 2010ish. They organised loads of gigs all over. I was mainly involved with London ones and they put on quite a few garage/grime gigs at some decent venues like Fabric. They were also very involved with the early incarnation of the Leftfield at Glastonbury (I also volunteered there). Libertines did a lot of stuff with them. I remember vividly the backstage paparazzi melee at Glastonbury when Kate Moss rocked up when she was seeing Pete Doherty.
So this is just a relaunch. I haven’t been involved with them for a while. Yes the SWP are involved (not my politics these days as a centrist Mum
). But so are lots of the unions as well. Hearts in the right place and they are quite effective so a good thing on the whole.ETA - the gigs I was involved with you usually had to pay to get in with profits going to good causes. Usually a big discount if you were unwaged.
Fozzie Bear
Well-Known Member
Roll Deep did some anti-racist gigs in the noughties. A photo of them ended up on that Redwatch site asking who they were, which was very funny.
colacubes
Mr Hot Cookie
Yep. Also Lethal Bizzle and Kano around the same time.
Nanker Phelge
Leave the gun. Take the cannoli.
The first RAR gigs were mostly pub circuit folk/jazz/funk groups made up of mainly white musicians. It wasn't until the movement grew its connections across the country that Reggae and Punk bands began to onboard. Carol Grimes and the Boogie Band played the first. Tom Robinson was there early on. I guess you start with musicians you know and take it from there. It wasn't all Steel Pulse and The Ruts from day one.
It would be great if they could build this with local bands and not bands that have already made it, but its a very different age in terms of grassroots music scenes and encouring people out to see/hear bands who are unknown. There was an attempt to reboot RAR a few years back and it stalled fairly quickly, mostly because it was easier to talk about it than actually do anything. Back in the 70s you could put a gig on anywhere. Now there's a lot of boring hurdles to jump. You can't lob a P.A on the back of a truck and just arrive in a park anymore. People want to buy food, and use toilets and be comfortable. The council want there to be security and proper licences in place and the NIMBYS will be crying their eyes out and shoving their complaints in.
redsquirrel
This Machine Kills Progressives
I mean I hope it is successful but it does seem very much singing to the converted.
SpookyFrank
A cheap source of teeth for aquarium gravel
DaveCinzano
WATCH OUT, GEORGE, HE'S GOT A SCREWDRIVER!
danny la rouge
I have a cheese grater in the dishwasher.
DaveCinzano
WATCH OUT, GEORGE, HE'S GOT A SCREWDRIVER!
Both ha-ha and peculiar
Voley
Joyful and Recumbent
belboid
Exasperated, not angry.
I was somewhat surprised to find, they were really good, actuallly.
zedr
new but not *that* new
Yep, Idles or Fontaines DC's whole image is anti-establishment/radical. Tbh I find them both a bit too preachy and I'd be surprised if any of their fans were supportive of even 'legitimate concerns abt immigration.
I'm not against the concerts in general esp if they're free or get people into putting on more diy shows, I just don't think it necessarily does the useful (and much more difficult) job of speaking to/deprogramming people who have been radicalised by the far right (sorry, know that's for the other thread).
tony.c
Well-Known Member
Tom Robinson band and Steel Pulse were on the posters for the 1978 Victoria Park Carnival. Others came on board after the posters were printed and flyposted. On the day Clash was the headline band. Others included Elvis Costello and Siouxsie and the Banshees. Jimmy Pursey of Sham 69 also made an appearance.
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Dystopiary
putting up a hook to hang my hopes upon
They should get Tom Robinson on board again; his name on posters might confuse the racists. 
That was 100% the best set at glasto. I'd never seen em live. Loved seeing some younguns chanting fuck the king.
Orang Utan
Psychick Worrier Ov Geyoor
Bit old-fashioned and incorrect to label it ‘Rock’ against racism, isn’t it?
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