Reynhard Sinaga - Britain’s most prolific rapist with 136 victims is jailed for 30 years

[editor]

What an evil cunt. The good news is that he's unlikely to ever get outside a prison again. He used his harmless looks to prey on young men in distress, and then drugged them, raped them and filmed them.

A man convicted of 159 sex offences, including 136 rapes, will "never be safe to be released", a judge has said.

Reynhard Sinaga was found guilty of luring 48 men from outside Manchester clubs to his flat, where he drugged and assaulted them - filming the attacks.

Police say they have evidence Sinaga, 36, who is being named for the first time, targeted at least 190 victims.

The Crown Prosecution Service (CPS) said Sinaga was "the most prolific rapist in British legal history".

The judge ruled his life sentence must include a minimum of 30 years in jail.

Reporting restrictions were also lifted at a sentencing hearing at Manchester Crown Court on Monday, meaning Sinaga could be identified for the first time.

The post-graduate student was already serving life, with a minimum term of 20 years, for the offences he was convicted of in two earlier trials, which took place in summer 2018 and last spring.

Across four separate trials, the Indonesian national was found guilty of 136 counts of rape, eight counts of attempted rape, 14 counts of sexual assault, and one count of assault by penetration, against a total of 48 victims.

Detectives say they have been unable to identify a further 70 victims and are now appealing for anyone who believes they may have been abused by Sinaga to come forward.

Reynhard Sinaga: 'Evil sexual predator' jailed for life for 136 rapes

A rapist who preyed on men outside clubs will "never be safe to be released" from jail, a judge says.

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[wiskey]

I read that they'd identified 190 people but still had 70 they hadn't put names to.

Either way his MO clearly worked for a very long time and they only caught him by chance.

 

[Orang Utan]

I imagine many men did not report what happened to the police. The only reason he got prosecuted for so many is that he recorded his crimes on his phone.

 

[mx wcfc]

This is almost beyond belief.

How does anyone get hold of that much "date rape drugs". And who the fuck supplies them?

and we have grief over a bit of fun drugs?

 

[Puddy_Tat]

I imagine many men did not report what happened to the police. The only reason he got prosecuted for so many is that he recorded his crimes on his phone.

the suggestion is that a fair proportion of them didn't really know what had happened until the police traced them and made contact.

i really don't understand humans sometimes.

 

[mx wcfc]

I imagine many men did not report what happened to the police. The only reason he got prosecuted for so many is that he recorded his crimes on his phone.

Yes I expect there were people who felt too ashamed, to report it, and probably a lack of faith in the filth's response is partly in play, but my reading of the story is that he got away with it until one guy woke up and fought back. the rest were just drugged and had no idea.

actually, and I'm not sure how to put this, but if I was drugged and anally raped, I'm pretty sure I would notice the next day, thinking about it.

 

[wiskey]

I heard on the radio earlier that the guy who was insufficiently drugged and woke up fought him off and stole his phone - on which were all the videos. Something like 1000 dvds worth. So he handed it to the police.

You might know if you were anally raped but there's a lot of things classed as assault before you get to that extreme that maybe you wouldn't be so aware of.

 

[Marty1]

Saw this on the BBC news, absolutely horrific especially as many of his victims didn’t even know he’d raped them.

Hopefully now that GHB drug will be reclassified as a class A.

 

[editor]

Saw this on the BBC news, absolutely horrific especially as many of his victims didn’t even know he’d raped them.

Hopefully now that GHB drug will be reclassified as a class A.

Yeah that'll surely stop evil cunts dead in their tracks.

 

[nogojones]

This is almost beyond belief.

How does anyone get hold of that much "date rape drugs". And who the fuck supplies them?

and we have grief over a bit of fun drugs?

GHB is pretty easy to come by and you get GBL by the half litre (a couple of ml would knock me out)

It's not just a date rape drug, most people use it for fun (at a not knock you out dose), and some people use it problematically and can be gripped by a pretty horrible dependent use.

What awful drug dealers sell this stuff? Just google GBL alloy wheel cleaner - Alongside getting you battered, it will also get your alloy wheels nice and clean

 

[nogojones]

Hopefully now that GHB drug will be reclassified as a class A.

Yeah. Changing the catagories of drugs under the Misuse of Drugs Act has such a good history of stopping drug misuse.

 

[Marty1]

GHB is pretty easy to come by and you get GBL by the half litre (a couple of ml would knock me out)

It's not just a date rape drug, most people use it for fun (at a not knock you out dose), and some people use it problematically and can be gripped by a pretty horrible dependent use.

What awful drug dealers sell this stuff? Just google GBL alloy wheel cleaner - Alongside getting you battered, it will also get your alloy wheels nice and clean

Is GBL and GHB similar?

 

[nogojones]

Is GBL and GHB similar?

Yeah. It's a really simple chemical conversion. But you can also just drink the GBL and your stomach will do the conversion. It's much safer in terms of overdose to do GHB mind

 

[editor]

Yeah. Changing the catagories of drugs under the Misuse of Drugs Act has such a good history of stopping drug misuse.

Guaranteed. Making cocaine a Class A drug has all but eradicated its use and prohibition was a runaway success in the States too.

 

[Marty1]

Yeah. It's a really simple chemical conversion. You can also just drink the GBL and your stomach will do the conversion. It's much safer in terms of overdose to do GHB mind

Blimey, learn something new every day. Imagine getting high off alloy cleaner.

 

[nogojones]

Blimey, learn something new every day. Imagine getting high off alloy cleaner.

Ethyl alcohol is a good cleaning solvent as well. It just has better marketing teams behind it

 

[Proper Tidy]

I was curious about why there was a reporting restriction on this bloke that was only lifted at end of the fourth (!) trial. Isn't it normal to name the suspect in the hope other victims come forward? It did occur to me it may have been to ensure trials fair/juries have no knowledge of defender but that would suggest it was always planned there would be four separate trials, why.

Anyway, everything about this grim as fuck, hope he carks it in jail

 

[wiskey]

I think they addressed that briefly in an interview with the detective on R4 earlier ... I think it was something to do a him claiming it was consensual.

 

[Athos]

It's one thing to publicly name a suspect who's likely to face one trial, but, where you know there'll be a number of trials (because of the number of alleged offences), highly public convictions in the earlier trials would likely make it impossible for them to receive a fair trial in any subsequent proceedings.

 

[Marty1]

Ethyl alcohol is a good cleaning solvent as well. It just has better marketing teams behind it

Maybe GBL should be banned outright then.

 

[nogojones]

Maybe GBL should be banned outright then.

I think ethyl alcohol should be restricted first, it's much too easily available and by far the most common "date rape drug"

 

[two sheds]

do tend to see GBH/GBL as with firearms type ban though - if you've got no licence/good use for it you can expect punishment.

 

[Proper Tidy]

It's one thing to publicly name a suspect who's likely to face one trial, but, where you know there'll be a number of trials (because of the number of alleged offences), highly public convictions in the earlier trials would likely make it impossible for them to receive a fair trial in any subsequent proceedings.

Why so many trials though? I know you've said number of victims - is that so the jury etc isn't subjected to all the evidence (videos)?

 

[editor]

Maybe GBL should be banned outright then.

Guaranteed to eradicate it off the face of the earth if that ban goes in, then.

 

[Athos]

Why so many trials though? I know you've said number of victims - is that so the jury etc isn't subjected to all the evidence (videos)?

It'd be practically very difficult to deal with all that in one trial. You'd run the risk of it going on for months with the possibility of losing jurors.

 

[Proper Tidy]

It'd be practically very difficult to deal with all that in one trial. You'd run the risk of it going on for months with the possibility of losing jurors.

Makes sense I suppose. I'd always thought multiple trials was because more victims/evidence once other trials already underway

 

[Athos]

Makes sense I suppose. I'd always thought multiple trials was because more victims/evidence once other trials already underway

Not necessarily.

 

[Marty1]

Grim reading

Manchester rapes: How Reynhard Sinaga found his victims — BBC News

For several years, until he was caught in 2017, Reynhard Sinaga preyed on young men enjoying a night out.

apple.news

Also, this GHB stuff has been named as a murder weapon 5 times since 2014.

Between 2007 and 2017 more than 200 deaths were linked to the drug; since 2014 it has been named as a murder weapon in five cases

 

[nogojones]

Grim reading

Manchester rapes: How Reynhard Sinaga found his victims — BBC News

For several years, until he was caught in 2017, Reynhard Sinaga preyed on young men enjoying a night out.

apple.news

Also, this GHB stuff has been named as a murder weapon 5 times since 2014.

To stir up a bit of cross thread beef, you'll find that cars kill 1800 people per year in the UK and are used frequently as a murder weapon

 

[two sheds]

and around 8000 deaths/year related to alcohol but I won't let that get in the way of a good beef