The39thStep
Urban critical thinker
nope, hes jut known as Red Cap Boy , there's something wrong with him , bit of a lost soul.
Reports that SWP bookshop Bookmarks attacked
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The39thStep
Urban critical thinker
no shit Sherlock
Rob Ray
Weight is meaningless
A Twitterer has collated them:
- The guy filming is Mark Martin aka Buska In The Park
- Max 'Red Cap Boy'
- Elizabeth Jones of UKIP's NEC
- Sharon Klaff
- Martin Costello (UKIP Swindon candidate 2018)
- Edward Howard (MBGA Youth Leader)
J Ed
Follow Back Pro Expropriation
If Elizabeth Jones being involved is going to be in the news tomorrow then she is either unaware of it, or not bothered, RTing UKIP related stuff as of a couple of minutes ago. Who knows, perhaps involvement in this sort of thing is a planned part of the party's new alt-right turn.
Wilf
Slouching towards Billingham
I'm generally ok with any kind of shit going the way of these people, but get a bit twitchy when it comes to getting people sacked. I mean fuck 'em and everything, but using bosses to do our dirty work is a bit....
Anyway, the kind of places some of these arses work, they'd get a raise.
Wilf
Slouching towards Billingham
I thought somebody needed advice on turns for the Christmas Concert.
winjer
holocene death beat
The woman behind the main group here could be Jones, but she doesn't appear to go into the shop.
compare with:
Wilf
Slouching towards Billingham
The more I see that video the more I wish someone would have sparked a couple of them out. Not because it was violent - it wasn't - just because. Forget the politics, fucking hell, the people! Whiney, entitled, immature, unprincipled, selfish little shits. The worst 14 year old you ever knew, made into a political movement. Fucking hell, destroy them!
Is that shiny new face of fascism ?! Fair play to m8e behind the counter.
krtek a houby
Merry Xmas!
Unfortunate pacing of chants, too " we love Trump, we love Trump! Paedophile, paedophile!"
hot air baboon
Well-Known Member
danny la rouge
More like *fanny* la rouge!
I don't usually watch YouTube videos, especially amateur ones, but I've just made myself watch that.
I think we can safely say that those people had no information or idea about the SWP at all. The loud annoying voice seems to be using only the most vague and generalised ideas about "the left". I assume the "paedophile" chants relate to implied lefty tolerance of Muslim Grooming Gangs, a cause célèbre for Tommy.
The loud annoying voice picks up several books and says "what is this?" (Editor writes: sentence could end here), including one that appears to be an edition of Abraham Leon's the Jewish Question. The Voice Guy seems to be working on the assumption that it's an anti-Semitic work. (Leon died in Auschwitz). This is no doubt because of Labour's ongoing omnishambles over anti-Semitism. I doubt there's any specific knowledge of the SWP involved.
While the shop guy no doubt felt intimidated, there's no violence that I could see. (Indeed I've experienced worse working in shops myself).
Not sure if much can be generalised from this (actually pretty minor) incident other than there's a group of loud and vacuous alt-righters who have become somewhat emboldened.
I think we can safely say that those people had no information or idea about the SWP at all. The loud annoying voice seems to be using only the most vague and generalised ideas about "the left". I assume the "paedophile" chants relate to implied lefty tolerance of Muslim Grooming Gangs, a cause célèbre for Tommy.
The loud annoying voice picks up several books and says "what is this?" (Editor writes: sentence could end here), including one that appears to be an edition of Abraham Leon's the Jewish Question. The Voice Guy seems to be working on the assumption that it's an anti-Semitic work. (Leon died in Auschwitz). This is no doubt because of Labour's ongoing omnishambles over anti-Semitism. I doubt there's any specific knowledge of the SWP involved.
While the shop guy no doubt felt intimidated, there's no violence that I could see. (Indeed I've experienced worse working in shops myself).
Not sure if much can be generalised from this (actually pretty minor) incident other than there's a group of loud and vacuous alt-righters who have become somewhat emboldened.
H
Humirax
Guest
This is weird. On the one hand you've got a bunch of moronic, sad, borderline fascist fuckwits, and on the other, people who likely belong to an organisation who covered up rape and whose former leader, shamefully still having influence in the party, is a misogynist rapist piece of shit.
Still, I hope these far-right clowns get whats owed to them and this kind of thing doesn't become regular.
Still, I hope these far-right clowns get whats owed to them and this kind of thing doesn't become regular.
danny la rouge
More like *fanny* la rouge!
I don't know enough about the internal workings of the SWP to know what actual authority any post holds, but the formal position is that Smith was National Secretary and that the leadership is collective. However, I know what you mean. I've been back and forth myself over this one. That's why I ended up watching a video I wouldn't normally have bothered with.
Yeah, I felt the same as soon as I posted. However, this shit is on facebook so that could well happen anyway. That seems to be how the modern world works.I'm generally ok with any kind of shit going the way of these people, but get a bit twitchy when it comes to getting people sacked. I mean fuck 'em and everything, but using bosses to do our dirty work is a bit....
Though I have no sympathy for any of these fuckwits
While the SWP is that, I'm not sure there's an equivalence. We can see what the fascist pricks are because their behaviour speaks for itself. The shop guy, on the other hand, could be just a comrade, or he could well be a deep rooted SWP apologist. I don't think this is a helpful comment. Let's focus on the obvious transgression
bimble
floofy
Thanks for sitting through the whole thing danny la rouge that’s a real public service.
butchersapron
Bring back hanging
Just to get something good out of this, the Abram Leon Book The Jewish Question: A Marxist Interpretation is on-line. Stone cold marxist classic written while he was still in his mid-20s and involved in the anti-nazi resistance which led to his murder. I have no doubt on the the strength of this work he would have gone on to be a major player in the marxist tradition. This edition doesn't contain the 30 page intro from the pathfinder press edition of 1970 though. Note Lenni Brenner, the historian who Livingstone shamed is thanked for providing a copy of the original english edition.
ska invita
back on the other side
I wonder if this was basically Luke Nash-Jones deliberately trying to get himself in a little bit of bother to raise his profile and maybe get in just a little puddle of hot/tepid water to get some Tommy Robinson-style martyr points?
The39thStep
Urban critical thinker
It could well have been but if it was I'm pretty sure it was spur of the moment stuff tbh. Theres a small pond of pantomine jounalists , patriotic crusaders all jostling for it bit of credibility and income; James Goddard ( who doesnt seem to have any history untill a year ago), male model Vini Sullivan , Red Pill Phil , Big John from Oldham all with little stunts taking it to the man etc and then of course theres Gen Id who probably have done the best out of the TR stuff in recruiting.
Riklet
procrastinación
Even though this was clearly no 'facist attack' it could easily embolden the far right and more violent individuals. We need solidarity and a strong response, whatever we think of the SWP.
Says a lot about the current state of things that no one kicked the shit out of those jokers.
Says a lot about the current state of things that no one kicked the shit out of those jokers.
what would you define as a fascist attack if not this?
butchersapron
Bring back hanging
The attack at Kensington library in 91 (?) would be an example.
These people believe something along the lines of the 24 protocols of Zion and an international Jewish-Communist conspiracy to corrupt the culture of the white race.
This shit is being fed to them - `subtly` through the mainstream press and a little less subtly on the interweb. If you wade through their shitty forums there does seem to be an induction point at Nazi Pug man leading through to Tommy and then directed into your `traditional` white supremacist fascist propaganda . Their target group is the poor white man who everybody is ignoring now
Is this the race to find the correct political brand for UK fascism ? I think so. There is an intelligence to it (it targets it`s political opponents ) and although it seems inconsistent in ideology they(Britain First, GenID, Tommy Slags, Ukip , and another 1000 loony tunes) do seem to be agreeing a lot.
Reminds me of Charlie Brooker`s Waldo.
Riklet
procrastinación
Actual facists actually planning to attack a left place in advance. Not filming it and giving away their names in the process on youtube. Going there aiming to destroy or burn the place or hurt people.
I am not being partisan btw. Solidarity to the bookshop and those affected. And this kinda thing may be copied. But from what I saw of the video they are a rag tag bunch of loons rather than a motivated far-right cell.
I am not being partisan btw. Solidarity to the bookshop and those affected. And this kinda thing may be copied. But from what I saw of the video they are a rag tag bunch of loons rather than a motivated far-right cell.
`Actual fascists` ... i`ll agree to disagree on this one, because I don`t see the difference, and I think they were directed.
The39thStep
Urban critical thinker
These people believe something along the lines of the 24 protocols of Zion and an international Jewish-Communist conspiracy to corrupt the culture of the white race.
This shit is being fed to them - `subtly` through the mainstream press and a little less subtly on the interweb. If you wade through their shitty forums there does seem to be an induction point at Nazi Pug man leading through to Tommy and then directed into your `traditional` white supremacist fascist propaganda . Their target group is the poor white man who everybody is ignoring now
Is this the race to find the correct political brand for UK fascism ? I think so. There is an intelligence to it (it targets it`s political opponents ) and although it seems inconsistent in ideology they(Britain First, GenID, Tommy Slags, Ukip , and another 1000 loony tunes) do seem to be agreeing a lot.
Reminds me of Charlie Brooker`s Waldo.
They dont , MBGA are pro Israel, in fact they wouldnt speak at one rally because a speaker was associated with someone who is in to all that jewish conspiracy stuff.
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