Manter
Lunch Mob
Yeah, xenophobia does my head in. Ignorant islamophobia pisses me off....
Refugee crisis. Something on the scale of the Marshall plan required?
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Yes, everyone's an ignorant islamophobe except you, you unctuous prat.
tony.c
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Nah I like it here, there's a great community.I'd sell up fast if I were you.
Manter
Lunch Mob
Good for you - I'm pleased you like it there. Personally I wouldn't, because I'm noise-sensitive. Oh, and just to prove how wrong accusations of my perceived 'racism' are, I wouldn't want to live within the sound of church bells either. So it isn't a question of 'race', rather of 'religion'??
Manter
Lunch Mob
Better make sure you don't live near any churches. Or markets. Or roads. Or children. Because noise is not in fact a Muslim issue.
DotCommunist
So many particulars. So many questions.
thinly vieled 'smelly food' wanker
FWIW before moving here, I lived around the corner from a mosque and a quarter of a mile from two churches. I'll give you one guess about which disturbed my mornings and evenings more.
Clue for the slow of thinking: The steady stream of people in and out of the mosque wasn't a problem, nor was their parking (many lived within walking distance), nor was the muezzin noticeable. Church bells before and after services, also practised on by visiting groups almost every week (for at least a couple of hours at a time) became a little tiresome.
Clue for the slow of thinking: The steady stream of people in and out of the mosque wasn't a problem, nor was their parking (many lived within walking distance), nor was the muezzin noticeable. Church bells before and after services, also practised on by visiting groups almost every week (for at least a couple of hours at a time) became a little tiresome.
If it wasn't noticeable WTF do it then?
Presumably for similar reasons that some people wear religious symbols very discreetly (eg under their clothing); sometimes it's enough for you to know that you do it.
Overt gestures tend to be more of a defensive thing, people secure in their own identity don't need them.
Oh well, that's jesus-freaks for you!
The good old days of the second world war, when there was no extreme islam on the warpath!
In any case loads of Jewish and other refugees did get locked up in camps before being let in the UK.
I've a feeling I'm going to regret asking this but . . . What??
To our collective shame, some were even locked up in camps (or required to report to the police every day) after arrival as refugees, because they were classed as "enemy aliens".
Enemy aliens - Japanese people living in the USA were locked up in camps during WWII for similar reasons.
Not only Christians - it's a human thing, not a dogma thing.
Treacle Toes
Time
Well football is 'a human thing' too and look how mindless that is?
8den
No I'm pretty sure that was 8ball...
Jesus random non sequiturs and racism
How gauche you are. It isn't a non sequitur, it's a comparison!! Know what a comparison is?
Treacle Toes
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ViolentPanda
Hardly getting over it.
I used to hear the muezzin when Greebo lived in Watford, but that was because she lived all of 30 metres from Watford Mosque.
Treacle Toes
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I loved to hear the call to prayer from Kingsland Road Mosque in Hackney...I lived just the other side of the canal in Haggerston. It was/still is beautiful.
ViolentPanda
Hardly getting over it.
I loved to hear the call to prayer from Kingsland Road Mosque in Hackney...I lived just the other side of the canal in Haggerston. It was/still is beautiful.
Agreed.
Last time I was talking to my dad about the refugee crisis, he reminded me that for many of his generation, the first time they heard the call to prayer was on Led Zeppelin's "Kashmir". Nowadays, for most people in urban settings, it's so absolutely normal that we often tune it out in the same way we tune out church bells.
Treacle Toes
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Apart from the fact I have always been into world folk music and love traditional Arabic styles and fusion, it just added to the beauty of my local audio fauna...it used to drift on the breeze over the canal along with the laughing, squealing of kids at Laburnam boat club, the vroom of passing cars, the rustling of leaves, the local church bells etc.
My eldest brother sings the call to prayer at his mosque in Banjul. The first time I heard him, I cried. He has a great voice, always has done and has been a singer in all kinds of different bands/settings over the years, but this was something else...very moving.
But not German-Americans, which was lucky for General Eisenhower and Admiral Nimitz.
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