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It smacks of a pathetic compromise to me. Williamson wanted to keep them all open and they settled on this shit show through horse trading rather than anything sensible.
Yup:" This patchwork approach to reopening schools followed a tussle between cabinet ministers including Williamson, who wanted to keep schools open, and others including Hancock and the Cabinet Office minister, Michael Gove, who wanted to be more cautious." Schools chaos as 21m more people in England face toughest Covid curbs
 
It smacks of a pathetic compromise to me. Williamson wanted to keep them all open and they settled on this shit show through horse trading rather than anything sensible.
But why compromise with London? Surely close London but keep other parts open, still no national lockdown.
 
That map of London with the little islands of schools still open is... utterly fucking insane.

It must be so hard to explain this stuff to your kids in a way that allows them to maintain some level of faith that the grown ups are doing sensible things to make everything better. Because there really aren't any grown ups in play at all here. That scares the shit out of me and I've had several decades to get used to the idea.
 
But why compromise with London? Surely close London but keep other parts open, still no national lockdown.
Hackney looks to be open. Until yesterday, the borough was over 800/100k. It's now 750 (and obviously some bits are worse) which is worse than many of the boroughs that are closed. 🤷‍♀️
 
I've written to my MP. I cannot see how this is justified. The government have made stupid decisions again and again but for some reason this one just seems to be the stupidest.
 
I've felt that this is just another fucked up, back to front, plan based around the fact that they would still - after everything - prefer to see the NHS being completely overwhelmed and more people dying, than to go back on yet another insistence that this years exams will/must happen. A fucking face saving exercise - but yet another one that will, undoubtedly, come with catastrophic results.



Williamson’s allies have been consulting MPs to see if they may publicly come out in favour of schools opening on time. He is understood to be raising concerns about the effect on summer exams in England if more learning hours are lost.

He has privately emphasised he believes school leaders would find it difficult to reopen schools again after a short closure because of the impact on parent and teacher confidence.
The Department for Education has said the return to schools is being kept “under review”.


It has fuck all to do with any benefit to, or concern for, kids, let alone anything else. Cancelling this years exams would be monumentally better for students and schools, in every way - and more and more learning hours are clearly lost while they continue to ignore all the scientific advice and the rising figures in the meantime - but 'exams' seem to be the driving force for a cascade of awful, dangerous decisions while they stick to working from that starting point. It's insane.

Also - that last bolded sentence - wtf does that even mean? Noting the ongoing responsibilty (blame) being laid at the feet of school leaders, not himself - that, effectively, people will have more confidence in being duped, during a huge rise in cases, during a pandemic? Y'know, this isn't fucking fireplaces you're selling, Gav, you shady cunt.
 
sparkybird said:
Lambeth is open? And surrounding boroughs closed? Mad! And some students will of course go to school outside their borough. WTF

I'm neither a parent, nor a teacher, nor London-dwelling any more, but even I can grasp the bonkersly chaotic insanity of everything going on with schools at the moment :mad:

Not to mention staff. It's completely batshit. This is the reason London was always treated as one unit. Until Gavin fucking Williamson stuck is oar in.

Especially before 1976 - remember ILEA, oldies? ;)

**[ETA Correction : '1976' was a typo, I meant before 1986!!-<---------- accuracy is all! ;) ]
 
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It must be so hard to explain this stuff to your kids in a way that allows them to maintain some level of faith that the grown ups are doing sensible things to make everything better. Because there really aren't any grown ups in play at all here. That scares the shit out of me and I've had several decades to get used to the idea.

We limit what we say, stick to what they need to know, we don't have the news on. Limit their exposure to grown ups who aren't grown ups, and emphasise how well the schools are managing a very difficult situation. The eldest is 13 and has her own news sources of course (tiktok) but its more important the 9 year old has a sense that we're being looked after.
 
Just read a post from someone on a local FB group who said Lambeth staying open because Kings and St Thomas together provide lots of hospital beds. Grim.
"I know, let's use up all our spare bed capacity to enable us to stick with our dangerous plan - what could possibly go wrong?"
 
So Gav "Only one bar on" Williamson has just this morning said that schools are required to carry out mass testing.

"That is why we are saying that the mass testing regime we are rolling out in our secondary schools has to move from being optional and an offer to schools to being something we require schools to do. Schools are a unique environment, and it is important that we put as many protections in place as we can.”

 
If next week we're on X hundred dead daily and X thousand daily infections and both are still rising (as looks inevitable for a couple more weeks) how the fuck will it look like a good plan to open schools on top of that? At what point will they backtrack, or will it just fall apart from non-attendance and sickness?
 
I just don’t understand how they can justify this. I don’t want a lockdown, it’s so bad for so many, but I just don’t see how we can justify anything else. We are seeing rates the same as when we were locked down before, we have a crap test and trace, we have no proper financial support in place for those isolating... the endlessness of this is really getting to me now, as is the frustration that this really didn’t have to be this way. Sigh.
 
My partner is clinically vulnerable, I'm not sure if the 9 yr old should be going to school really although I don't want her off either. So far as i know about a quarter of the class had it over xmas, but that's only the parents I'm in touch with, so it could've been more, and probably was. I haven't got a sense of there being a move to non-attendance round here but that could change quickly.
 
If next week we're on X hundred dead daily and X thousand daily infections and both are still rising (as looks inevitable for a couple more weeks) how the fuck will it look like a good plan to open schools on top of that? At what point will they backtrack, or will it just fall apart from non-attendance and sickness?

It would be interesting to see what would have happened if schools had shut 3 days earlier before xmas. How many chains of infection would have been cut off.
 
My sister (in Scotland) has just been asking wtf is going on here. My primary school age nephew has an extra three days holiday next week and will be at home until at least the 18th (with the caveat that that could change, depending on rates).

He was sent home with a learning pack to cover various home schooling scenarios when they split up for Christmas. All this had already been communicated to parents at national level as well as LA/school level. So you know, it is possible...
 
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