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razor blades under fascist stickers - myth or not?
- Thread starter Fozzie Bear
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keybored
Well done. You remember cat good.
I'm thinking if someone doesn't want to shell out for a label printer or sticky-back paper they would just use an ordinary ink jet onto cheap A4, cut them down, spray and stick. But yeah, "spraying stickers" is odd wording.
Pickman's model
Starry Wisdom
whatever sticks your sticker i suppose
ddraig
kicking against the pricks...
You're 100% wrong so apology appreciated
"someone"..."a few months ago"....
Not with a razor blade under a sticker, that's just horseshit.
And fuck you too, you twerp.
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Starry Wisdom
keys do the trick.
wtf when did that happen. did you report it?
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Starry Wisdom
you're new round these parts, i can tell
Serge Forward
Just enjoyin' my coffee.
Whitechapel BNP in the 80s? Who would I report it to? Leman Street cop shop?
The thick cunts had put the sticker over a light in the subway so you could actually see the razor before removing it
TopCat
Putin fanboy
Can you take you transphobic shite and fuck off back to that shrinking toxic corner you usually inhabit?
thats what I thought. My considerations on such an event would not even contemplate contacting authorities (as you say who to contact) but at the same time have you any contemporaneous accounts of the occurrence. It feels as if we are so close to the source of an urban myth that we must pursue it a little further. If it were me, I would have been telling everyone who would listen. Maybe you are the source of the entire subject genre. (I did not say myth because i think it is untrue, rather that is how it is referred to)Whitechapel BNP in the 80s? Who would I report it to? Leman Street cop shop?
Serge Forward
Just enjoyin' my coffee.
I did tell everyone. I'm still telling them now
No, I haven't any more recent examples.
No, I haven't any more recent examples.
I am not asking for recent examples. I am asking for contemporaneous back up of what you say happened, and if as you say you told everyone, then everyone can back up your accountI did tell everyone. I'm still telling them now
No, I haven't any more recent examples.
Pickman's model
Starry Wisdom
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Starry Wisdom
The other poster obviously confused contemporary with contemporaneous which is why I said I was not looking for more recent examples.
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Starry Wisdom
tell me, have you any examples of things you told people 40 years ago which you can corroborate through their evidence?
hitmouse
so defeated, thinks it's funny
Fwiw, here are some earlier posts from the thread, that seem to pre-date Serge's account:
As far as I can tell, everyone seems to agree that it seems to be something that has happened, but is extremely rare, so I'm not quite sure why this is such a controversial thread?
Original testimony/accounts are so important as once they have been percolated through someone else, they are not the same.
My interest was piqued because someone claimed to have witnessed something that I have been aware of for many years but had always happened to a friend or friend of such. Now here was someone claiming to be an original source. I asked for verification. I thought that I asked in a polite, reasonable and non judgemental manner.
On being asked if I could verify things from forty years ago or not, then some I could and some not depending on the importance of the situation.
My interest was piqued because someone claimed to have witnessed something that I have been aware of for many years but had always happened to a friend or friend of such. Now here was someone claiming to be an original source. I asked for verification. I thought that I asked in a polite, reasonable and non judgemental manner.
On being asked if I could verify things from forty years ago or not, then some I could and some not depending on the importance of the situation.
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Starry Wisdom
he's been proved a wrong 'un time and time again
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Fozzie Bear
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There is also this blog:
www.strangehistory.net
Which includes a number of references to press reports:
National Front posters at Warwick University (Cov Ev Tel, 25 May, 10).
In 1983 razors were found behind racist posters in Liverpool (Liv Ech, 31 May, 3).
Then in 1986 a student at Brunel University was accused of putting razors behind ‘right wing posters’ (apparently pro-South African: Ux Gaz 7 Aug, 14).
Urban Legend? Razor Blades Behind Posters - Beachcombing's Bizarre History Blog
I’ve never heard of these shenanigans before but my immediate reaction is ‘urban legend’. In urban legends, remember, ‘razor blades’ are put in everything from Halloween sweets or apples (US) to lipstick (Iran), to slides (stuck there with chewing gum) so why not behind posters? After all, ‘if...
Which includes a number of references to press reports:
National Front posters at Warwick University (Cov Ev Tel, 25 May, 10).
In 1983 razors were found behind racist posters in Liverpool (Liv Ech, 31 May, 3).
Then in 1986 a student at Brunel University was accused of putting razors behind ‘right wing posters’ (apparently pro-South African: Ux Gaz 7 Aug, 14).
The language is rather clumsy
Fozzie Bear
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Also a few references of fascist scumbags sending razors through the post (which is not the same thing, but does demonstrate the lengths they will go to and tactics they will use):
In 1983, National Front activist Joe Owens was convicted of sending razor blades under the flap of envelopes to prominent Jewish people in Liverpool. He was sentenced to 12 months in prison. [Joe Owens – Action! Race War To Door Wars (self-published 2007)].
Graham Paton of the fringe National Socialist Action Party was convicted in 1986 for sending a concealed razor blade to an anti-apartheid activist.
Something similar seems to have happened during the Bolton Council elections in 2007, when a candidate from the far right Veritas Party was sent a razor blade by an anonymous dickhead claiming to be a BNP supporter Probe into razor blade hate mail
Combat 18 in 2007: Anti-semitic attacks hit record high following Lebanon war
In 1983, National Front activist Joe Owens was convicted of sending razor blades under the flap of envelopes to prominent Jewish people in Liverpool. He was sentenced to 12 months in prison. [Joe Owens – Action! Race War To Door Wars (self-published 2007)].
Graham Paton of the fringe National Socialist Action Party was convicted in 1986 for sending a concealed razor blade to an anti-apartheid activist.
Something similar seems to have happened during the Bolton Council elections in 2007, when a candidate from the far right Veritas Party was sent a razor blade by an anonymous dickhead claiming to be a BNP supporter Probe into razor blade hate mail
Combat 18 in 2007: Anti-semitic attacks hit record high following Lebanon war
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coventry evening telegraph 26.5.1976
Fozzie Bear
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I think people like to be very certain and black and white about these things? Either someone told them about it happening and they think it is "true" (and widespread) or they refuse to believe it because it's an urban myth?
As you say, it's not difficult to reach a more nuanced position on this, especially if you have spent more than five minutes actually reading this thread.
StoneRoad
heckling from the back!
Fuck me, I was at the Lanch in Coventry in 1976.
I do remember our Student's Union telling people to be "very careful" when removing offensive [fash] posters ...
kenny g
Sheeple Awake!
I wonder what an NF disciplinary tribunal was like, and what kind of punishments were meted out?
Kevbad the Bad
Amiable Bowel Syndrome
They probably made you read Peace News out loud.
And nails in bombs from Copeland.
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