Question Time tonight

[stavros]

Interesting terminology from Suella Braverman last night, describing those voting against the EU deal as "self-appointed MPs".

I've only recently become truly aware of the existence of Nick Ferrari, so forgive me if I'm nostalgic for bygone days. "80% of people voted for parties in the general election who'd carry out Brexit" is a statistic that should be challenged whenever trotted out, as I'm sure it wasn't the only factor in where people put their GE crosses.

 

[butchersapron]

Interesting terminology from Suella Braverman last night, describing those voting against the EU deal as "self-appointed MPs".

I've only recently become truly aware of the existence of Nick Ferrari, so forgive me if I'm nostalgic for bygone days. "80% of people voted for parties in the general election who'd carry out Brexit" is a statistic that should be challenged whenever trotted out, as I'm sure it wasn't the only factor in where people put their GE crosses.

How would you challenge it? As you outlined it it is unassailable.

 

[stavros]

How would you challenge it? As you outlined it it is unassailable.

Ask the audience? Or say, as Ferrari et al are quoting the manifestos, that there were policies there not linked to Brexit that they must've thought would appeal to some of their target voters.

 

[belboid]

Ask the audience? Or say, as Ferrari et al are quoting the manifestos, that there were policies there not linked to Brexit that they must've thought would appeal to some of their target voters.

but they still voted for parties who said they'd carry out Brexit. If they voted because of other policies they held to be more important, fair enough, but it makes no odds, they still voted for parties that promised Brexit. So Ferrari was right. Even tho he is a twat.

 

[butchersapron]

Ask the audience? Or say, as Ferrari et al are quoting the manifestos, that there were policies there not linked to Brexit that they must've thought would appeal to some of their target voters.

All of this would confirm that he was correct.

 

[stavros]

I see your point. They are cunning in that sense.

 

[DexterTCN]

Right..,.I put radio 5 on to give this another go...female guest points out jacob rees-mogg wants to deport her and bbc guy replies that jrm isn't here to defend himself...good start.

Anyway...let's see how long I last at Motherwell.

 

[DexterTCN]

First question...is Donald Tusk a cunt?

Answer...no second referendum!

 

[DexterTCN]

I'm out

 

[DexterTCN]

 

[Poi E]

Seen the photos of this regular guest having a chin wag with show organisers before the show? What a fucking joke. At least this show reflects the democratic farce of Westminster, I suppose.

 

[Dogsauce]

It’s not like they pick people at random from the streets for the audience though, is it?

It’s a self-selecting bunch of people interested enough in politics to apply to go on, mainly political hacks and party members corralled into turning up by local party branches. It’s not hard to get in and you’re allowed to turn up more than once.

The BBC supposedly try to make it representative by asking people which if any party they support but some will lie to try and skew that balance, though I suspect it barely makes a difference. They’d do better trying to get an accurate age or ethnic balance but ultimately it’s a load of shite that matters little anyway and won’t sway elections or anything like that, it’s just entertainment.

 

[butchersapron]

I'm out

Someone needs to get a hobby says the person scouring TV audiences for people attending a show more than once so they can stasi them.

 

[Riklet]

He made quite a good point I thought.

Quite damning for the Scot Nats some bits of that show. And especially the very pertinent question about Westminster/Brussels. On the one hand folks want more local control and accountable democracy.... on the other they want it given over to the EU in some kind of liberal internationalist fantasy.

 

[Poi E]

Still, the EU won't force nukes on them. Yet.

 

[DexterTCN]

... And especially the very pertinent question about Westminster/Brussels. On the one hand folks want more local control and accountable democracy.... on the other they want it given over to the EU in some kind of liberal internationalist fantasy.

Also Auntie’s Favourite

 

[butchersapron]

That bloke in the audience looks familiar - check the ledger.

 

[Riklet]

His pin number is blatantly 1690

 

[stavros]

Michael Forsyth thinks the Irish border isn't really a problem.

It would have been nice to have an open discussion on that audience member's point about the House of Lords being somewhat less than representative.

 

[Poi E]

Can't take presenters like Bruce seriously when they speak with that BBC posh bollocks voice. All airy and authoritative but come across as fucking slippery.

 

[stavros]

Can anyone explain what Forsyth was on about when he said Donald Tusk should be more like the Queen? She's paid to do fuck all, other than wave and smile occasionally, and have no opinions whatsoever.

 

[hash tag]

I suspect tonight will be a bit of a handful for ms Bruce.

 

[killer b]

Can anyone explain what Forsyth was on about when he said Donald Tusk should be more like the Queen? She's paid to do fuck all, other than wave and smile occasionally, and have no opinions whatsoever.

I imagine he meant Tusk should do fuck all, wave and smile occasionally, and have no opinions whatsoever.

 

[not a trot]

I suspect tonight will be a bit of a handful for ms Bruce.

Moggy makes an appearance. Got plenty of missiles ready to lob at the screen.

 

[Shechemite]

I suspect tonight will be a bit of a handful for ms Bruce.

Aylesbury isn’t *that* bad

 

[Riklet]

Great to see Grace Blakely on there. She was good but needs to be careful not to do the indignant lefty interrupting and shocked-face thing and keep it calm and logical and consistent.

Say what you want about JRM but he knows how to win an audience over through consistency and answering the question and appearing to give clarity to difficult issues.

 

[hash tag]

"bring Begum home, save her baby to save many other babies"

 

[DotCommunist]

I see This Week has been cancelled, good. Less Andrew Niel is always a good thing. Hopefully QT can go next, an audience of plants, honking right wing axe grinders and sundry actors listen to rees mogg defending boer era concentration camps. Burn it all.

 

[Poi E]

I see RM compared the death rate in the British concentration camps to the death rate in Glasgow at the time. Great fucking arguments for the British empire. Fuck, even my Brit nat mate acknowledges the camps.

 

[gawkrodger]

just caught the clip of JRM on Boer War concentration camps. Unfuckingbelievable