Question Time tonight

[Who PhD]

You aren't familiar with the 'charge'. Read the thread, because it answers the questions that you are asking.

I see nothing that answers the question, what specifically are you referring to? Actually answering the question insrtead of treating me like a dog chasing a ball might be better ffs

 

[Who PhD]

It's a fist of dicks, same as always. You seem to have unrealistic expectations about how rigorous their booking policy is.

I agree totally that Mendoza's politics are shit and damaging. This is not, and has never been, a barrier to being booked by QT.

how are they damaging?

 

[killer b]

I refer you back to the thread about The Canary you've already been linked to. If you can't see what's damaging from the discussion there then there's nothing I can do to help you.

 

[William of Walworth]

I mean, look at this shower - is there anyone on this list who's politics aren't shit and damaging?

Conservative international trade secretary Liam Fox, Labour MP Stella Creasy, editor-in-chief of The Economist Zanny Minton Beddoes, founder and editor of left-wing news site The Canary Kerry-Anne Mendoza, and LBC radio host Nick Ferrari.

Creasy won't be too bad probably. The rest : total shower yes.

 

[killer b]

If Creasy's queens speech amendment passes, she'll be doing QT tonight having brought down the government this afternoon. An unusual situation.

 

[Who PhD]

I look forward to that nutter from Vox Political getting his turn.

mike sivier?

now what's wrong with him?

who else do you hate?

 

[killer b]

you.

 

[DotCommunist]

When she was blogging she tried to crowd fund herself a £25k a year salary and when that didn't work set up a couple of similar sites to the canary that didn't take off. She grew traffic for her blog by auto-tweeting every post about hourly from one of the Occupy accounts which she seemed to have control over and also from an anti-olympic campaign's twitter feed. She then had a brief dalliance with David Icke's project which seemed to result in a fall out. She also had a book publised on austerity, I only skimmed the part on welfare reform but it was full of sloppy errors. Politically she was, and possibly still is, committed to the zeigeist crap combined with a sort of vaguely liberal Corbynism.

tl:dr a blogger who got a bit of attention around the time of Occupy and the first wave of austerity and who's been desperately trying to monetise that ever since.

Ike, Occupy, zietgiest. former managment consultant in banking. The above post should be enough to have you not wanting that person representing your side of the argument

 

[Who PhD]

I refer you back to the thread about The Canary you've already been linked to. If you can't see what's damaging from the discussion there then there's nothing I can do to help you.

So you can't actually answer the question? Just say so then, we don't need to engage in this pointless dance that you are trying to lead solely to show off.

If you're going to struggle like this everytime you meet someone who doesn't understand a position you hold or an assertion you make then you're going to have a very miserable time.

 

[Who PhD]

you.

get a life then

 

[killer b]

I don't even

 

[cantsin]

You aren't familiar with the 'charge'. Read the thread, because it answers the questions that you are asking.

went and searched , found the Canary thread, explained little ( bit derailed by KF tbh) , saw a piece from you in March complaining that Canary gives false impression of Labour being 'on cusp of power', the well rehearsed clickbait argument, the 'echo chamber' canard gets another airing....can you point us ( lazy/ bad searchers ) to more substantial critique of KM / Canary ?

 

[Who PhD]

I don't even

You certainly don't think. I asked a pretty reasonable question and you shit your pants, like some of the other losers on here who hide behind their beliefs lashing out at others.

 

[Kaka Tim]

shes a twat who runs a bullshit website - an embarrassment and a self serving egoist.

 

[butchersapron]

mike sivier?

now what's wrong with him?

All this stuff.

Regardless of the problems with the people making this stuff public.

 

[J Ed]

Another thing that isn't mentioned afaik on the Canary thread but is worth mentioning now, Mendoza was within the orbit of Icke and while I do not know whether she herself has spoken about it the Canary employs actual 9/11 truthers including Nafeez Ahmed.

 

[Who PhD]

shes a twat who runs a bullshit website - an embarrassment and a self serving egoist.

good argument!

 

[Who PhD]

Another thing that isn't mentioned afaik on the Canary thread but is worth mentioning now, Mendoza was within the orbit of Icke and while I do not know whether she herself has spoken about it the Canary employs actual 9/11 truthers including Nafeez Ahmed.

does the site advocate 911 'truth'? Or does the personal,if highly deluded, belief of a particular contributor not matter at all.

 

[J Ed]

does the site advocate 911 'truth'? Or does the personal,if highly deluded, belief of a particular contributor not matter at all.

Well everyone has their own standards I suppose, but for me (and I think most people) being a 9/11 truther is one of those things which disqualifies you from your job if your job is writing about politics and the same is true of those who knowingly employ truthers to write about politics.

 

[DotCommunist]

Another thing that isn't mentioned afaik on the Canary thread but is worth mentioning now, Mendoza was within the orbit of Icke and while I do not know whether she herself has spoken about it the Canary employs actual 9/11 truthers including Nafeez Ahmed.

icke, zietgiest and occupy. and working with full on 9/11 truthers. I'm sure there are a lot of commited anti-zionists in that grouping , iyswim.

does the site advocate 911 'truth'? Or does the personal,if highly deluded, belief of a particular contributor not matter at all.

yeah when interrogating a source, evaluating it you look at where its coming from, the reliability of its output and who it is willing to share physical and ideological space with. This one smells bad.

 

[J Ed]

Also it's not as if Nafeez Ahmed is writing about stuff that would be unrelated to 9/11 truther crap like I don't know Pacific fishing stock or to review condiments from supermarkets.

From a quick overview of his author page on their website, he is writing about US foreign policy, Chilcot and 'false flag' attacks. This man hasn't been employed in spite of being a 9/11 truther he has been employed because of that expertise.

 

[Who PhD]

icke, zietgiest and occupy. and working with full on 9/11 truthers. I'm sure there are a lot of commited anti-zionists in that grouping , iyswim.

yeah when interrogating a source, evaluating it you look at where its coming from, the reliability of its output and who it is willing to share physical and ideological space with. This one smells bad.

Sure, but i'm not just going to dismiss it on the basis of the claim alone.

Does the Canary promote truther views? Or is he just someone who also happens to have a stupid worldview?

 

[Kaka Tim]

the canary promotes bullshit news. Bullshit news is the scourge of the internet and needs to be opposed.

 

[J Ed]

Sure, but i'm not just going to dismiss it on the basis of the claim alone.

Does the Canary promote truther views? Or is he just someone who also happens to have a stupid worldview?

I would say that having someone who is a 9/11 truther writing for you on foreign policy is the same thing as promoting truther views, yes.

 

[Who PhD]

I would say that having someone who is a 9/11 truther writing for you on foreign policy is the same thing as promoting truther views, yes.

can you give an example of that actually happening?

I agree it's a thin line, but surely it depends on the actual content. All I see so far are just claims and possibly nothing more than ad hom.

 

[J Ed]

can you give an example of that actually happening?

I agree it's a thin line, but surely it depends on the actual content. All I see so far are just claims and possibly nothing more than ad hom.

I already have. Nafeez Ahmed is a 9/11 truther and he writes for The Canary.

 

[J Ed]

I don't really know what else I can do here. Do you want me to meet up with you and we'll go to his house together or something?

 

[killer b]

I think, as always, it's a waste of fucking time.

 

[J Ed]

I think, as always, it's a waste of fucking time.

You can take a horse to water and all that.

So what about this NI amendment, is it going to pass? Any chance the likes of Soubry might vote for it? Are there any wildcard non-Tories that might vote against it?

 

[killer b]

You can take a horse to water and all that.

So what about this NI amendment, is it going to pass? Any chance the likes of Soubry might vote for it? Are there any wildcard non-Tories that might vote against it?

I dunno. I reckon in the breach it'll be voted down. Be nice if not though.