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Bit sexist that.
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gosub
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Lib/Lab/Con all in favor so no debate and zero effort to sell it to the public
1927
Funnier than he thinks he is.
What has wages got to do with class?
gosub
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That, though valid could lead to a long and done to death urban derail. In the end though, it is hard to see how earning 100 times average salary in a fifteen year career span will not differentiate thinking from Joe Soap.
US/EU Free Trade deal, which will allow US corps who if in the future own utilities, parts of the NHS?, etc, to sue if national Gov'ts attempt to take it back, easier access to buy up services, lots of other bad things.
discokermit
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obviously it does affect his thinking but his background, friends, relatives all affect him too.
1927
Funnier than he thinks he is.
I don't under stand why Barton shouldn't be on panel, it smacks of political snobbery.
On a more serious note, it is the attitude towards Barton on this thread, a person who probably is more in touch with the average Joe than the usual panellists, that has caused the popularity of UKIP.
Like if or not, the average poster on these boards is not ya average Joe Uk citizen, there is a largish majority of the working class in this country, who you may wish were all right wing, but are actually fed up with mass immigration, the main parties are too scared to engage with these people, hence the popularity of UKIP.
Joey Barton despite his high wages is ya average joe, but by refusing to take his pov seriously there is a danger of missing the point, IMHO.
On a more serious note, it is the attitude towards Barton on this thread, a person who probably is more in touch with the average Joe than the usual panellists, that has caused the popularity of UKIP.
Like if or not, the average poster on these boards is not ya average Joe Uk citizen, there is a largish majority of the working class in this country, who you may wish were all right wing, but are actually fed up with mass immigration, the main parties are too scared to engage with these people, hence the popularity of UKIP.
Joey Barton despite his high wages is ya average joe, but by refusing to take his pov seriously there is a danger of missing the point, IMHO.
1927
Funnier than he thinks he is.
Nature and nurture innit. I'm think he is still pretty down to earth.
belboid
Exasperated, not angry.
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gosub
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Defend by attacking, they can hardly say "thank god, those of us left are getting ground down by all this humiliation."
taffboy gwyrdd
Embrace the confusion!
what's TTIP?
what's TTIP?
Now you've been told what TTIP is, ask yourself why someone with a clear interest in politics didn't know about agreements whereby corporations can take governments to secret arbetration for billions if they think policy will effect their profits.
Weren't you having a go at me on another thread for citing the power of media (?) -maybe not, it was the UKIP thread anyway.
Point is that the media has as much power in what they do discuss as what they don't. See also: Privatisation of NHS.
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gosub
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Damn sight more human than a hedge fund manager of whom you could make the same critique. The hedge fund manager would probably have more impact on my life though, (i don't watch footie), its stilll tall poppies talking down to us.
On the Left Unity website, nearly every status is now about UKIP, they seem to be going down the uber hysteria road of the SWP, etc.
1927
Funnier than he thinks he is.
But the fact he is a footballer is irrelevant! He is the man on the street who needs to be persuaded not to go down the UKIP route and the main parties don't see it.
gosub
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Its now really complicated: you mean the anti immigration bit of UKIP, then he's great person to put forward everybody gets he is in international competition for his job, and I presume flourishing. Or the anti EU bit cos its not the man on the street who needs it explained that UKIP dissapates after the EU issue gets a plebicite
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Don't really understand all this 'Barton shouldn't be on the panel' stuff. Why not?
I'd like to see more people outside of the party political milieu given a voice on QT, the same old shite week in week out gets boring.
What i'd really like to know is what Shami Chakrabarti did to piss off the BBC, she used to be on it all the time yet hasn't popped up for well over a year.
I'd like to see more people outside of the party political milieu given a voice on QT, the same old shite week in week out gets boring.
What i'd really like to know is what Shami Chakrabarti did to piss off the BBC, she used to be on it all the time yet hasn't popped up for well over a year.
butchersapron
Bring back hanging
taffboy gwyrdd
Embrace the confusion!
I've searched for some clarity on that in the past Butchers, where did you get yours from. I expect they could vote against on the basis of voting against just about anything, but I don't expect they would abstain from similar arrangements were the UK to exit the EU.
I don't believe UKIP oppose TTIP on principle, but that they may oppose it via it's coming into existence by the EU.
Pickman's model
Starry Wisdom
a stuttering smoker asking for a filter?what's TTIP?
SpineyNorman
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Or Yorkshire for going to the council dump - I'm off to t'tip.
SpineyNorman
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I knew about the trade agreement - I just didn't recognise the acronym. And while I agree that one of the things the media can and will do in the service of power is to not discuss certain issues you've picked a pretty bad example since I don't think you can claim with any credibility that the privatisation/breakup of the NHS hasn't been covered. Nobody has ever claimed the media don't play a role in shaping opinion. What I at least object to is the idea you seem to have that they can shape peoples views like they're lumps of plasticine. I don't know if you've ever read manufacturing consent but if not you should IMO - gives a brilliant account of the role and nature of the media without reducing everything down to tabloid brainwashing.
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SpineyNorman
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Maybe their policy of not having lib dems on explains Chakrabarti's absence?
Who is Claire fox? She was on the Any Questions last night and seems right up herself?
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