Lord Camomile
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Oh fuck me, now Andrew Neil is telling Michael Portillo Christmas cracker jokes. And... *change channel*
Question Time tonight
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Lord Camomile
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Lord Camomile
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Yup, just had a quick poke around the net and it was the Gulbenkian.
And I think that's challenging for the most productive and worthwhile thing to come out of this evening.
And I think that's challenging for the most productive and worthwhile thing to come out of this evening.
Fez909
toilet expert
You missed portillo's theory on why people use food banks: it's not because they're hungry; it's just so that they can save money on feeding the family and spend elsewhere.
Really.
The more that sorry excuse for a human being gets into politics the worse he becomes.
Edited to add: Scratch that - he should be stripped of everything he owns, forced to drop any and all social or professional contacts he has, and forced to live on JSA (sanctions and all) for 15 years.
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Pickman's model
Starry Wisdom
i did. but i could extrapolate from the bits i did see.thought youd turned off PM ?
belboid
Exasperated, not angry.
Not simply 'elsewhere' but quite specifically on 'drugs'. The utter utter wanker.
DotCommunist
So many particulars. So many questions.
Portillo in recent years seems to have been repatriated into the land of 'not a total prick' with his cuddly rail programs and his avuncular manners.
but he's still the same old toxic shit he always was in power
but he's still the same old toxic shit he always was in power
dennisr
the acceptable face
it was - try living in the same town...Oh, it's in Canterbury! That makes sense then as that's where I met Bunny
Libertad
Sparking up a rollie in the Reichstag
He can shove his Bradshaw's right up his fucking arse.
SpookyFrank
A cheap source of teeth for aquarium gravel
It's for pupils who, at the age of 11, look like they will be more adept at academc subjects.
The whole idea of streaming kids into separate schools at that age is pretty barbaric IMO.
e2a: Glad someone pointed out that a return to grammar schools would suggest a return to secondary moderns as well. Or some other kind of lower-tier school for those deemed to be not really worth the effort.
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goldenecitrone
post tenebras lux
He forgot to say, Bah, humbug, at the end. Let's hope the ghost of Christmas Thatch pays Portillo a visit in the coming days, her chains clanking hideously along his bedroom passage.
Dogsauce
I’ve got Skol but I’m not a Scholar
You can still sort classes by ability (setting) to better align teaching with pupil's aptitude for certain subjects yet have people able to socialise across broader groups of friends. That then allows for people who are really good at a couple of subjects but not at others to do well where they can, whereas throwing them into a school for broadly less able (or more able) wouldn't help them. One of my friends got three science A levels but had to redo their GCSE English to get into university. They'd never have got into a grammar if that situation was in place (they were quite disruptive at junior school too, but grew up a bit later on - measuring kids at a certain age doesn't help people like this).
The grammar school argument smacks of targeting resources at better able and fuck the rest. Some Free Schools are the same. It's championed by parents who don't want their kids to have to mix with 'oiks', who would probably love to buy their kids out of socialising with people they consider lesser than them but can't afford the fees of private schools.
They're also missing out that adult education and proper apprenticeships with day release by committed employers was one of the reasons for post-war social mobility, that's how my Dad got on in life (via ten years at night school). That sort of thing went down the toilet when we moved to a model of transient employment with little investment in worker education, you're supposed to buy that yourself at university if you can now.
SpookyFrank
A cheap source of teeth for aquarium gravel
Dogsauce said:
Yep, my mum got her break in life from night school. Meant she was able to look after two kids and get a qualification at the same time. She trained as a nurse, but sadly I don't think there's a non-degree route into nursing any more, so that wouldn't be an option for her now.
SpookyFrank
A cheap source of teeth for aquarium gravel
As for Russell Brand, he did what I expected which was to throw out his prepared catchphrases regardless of what the actual questions were.
He remembered to mention the dozens of MP's with interests in private healthcare, why didn't he talk about all the landlords and property barons in parliament who have a vested interest in perpetuating the housing shortage when he was asked about 'overcrowding'? Or the councils openly taking bribes to let developers off their obligation to build social housing? He's been spending all this time with the Focus E15 mums and the folks at the New Era estate, you would think these issues would be on the tip of his tongue.
And of course there's always a couple of platitutde-spouting MP's to suck the life out of any actual debate that might start to happen while Dimbleby's having one of his little naps.
The woman in the audience talking about 'vetting' immigrants to make sure they're the 'right sort of people' and how that's 'nothing to do with racism', I wish I could've stood up at that point and asked her who fucking vetted her to make sure she's 'the right sort of person'
He remembered to mention the dozens of MP's with interests in private healthcare, why didn't he talk about all the landlords and property barons in parliament who have a vested interest in perpetuating the housing shortage when he was asked about 'overcrowding'? Or the councils openly taking bribes to let developers off their obligation to build social housing? He's been spending all this time with the Focus E15 mums and the folks at the New Era estate, you would think these issues would be on the tip of his tongue.
And of course there's always a couple of platitutde-spouting MP's to suck the life out of any actual debate that might start to happen while Dimbleby's having one of his little naps.
The woman in the audience talking about 'vetting' immigrants to make sure they're the 'right sort of people' and how that's 'nothing to do with racism', I wish I could've stood up at that point and asked her who fucking vetted her to make sure she's 'the right sort of person'
The woman in the audience talking about 'vetting' immigrants to make sure they're the 'right sort of people' and how that's 'nothing to do with racism', I wish I could've stood up at that point and asked her who fucking vetted her to make sure she's 'the right sort of person'
I was babysitting last night so missed the fun, but was that not a question about the recent scandal about immigrants not being checked and later being found to have convictions for serious crimes in their countries of origin?
http://www.independent.co.uk/news/u...-over-immigration-check-failings-9919084.html
Lord Camomile
Yipchaa!
I went to a 'grant maintained' school, which I believe wasn't technically a grammar school but I did have to sit entrance exams.
Fuck it, I never understood all the distinctions anyway.
Fuck it, I never understood all the distinctions anyway.
Dogsauce
I’ve got Skol but I’m not a Scholar
Most of the audience are political hacks. The main parties have bussed them in for years. I saw an episode being filmed in Leeds once and there was this front row of really weird looking tories, proper blue rinses and teenagers wearing ties, that they must have ferried over from Harrogate or somewhere like that. Nobody like that exists around here, not even in the Conservative social clubs.
J Ed
Follow Back Pro Expropriation
Just tie him to a train track, he loves them so much so it would be a fitting end
Okay, I'll do that, just as soon as he's completed 15 years under JSA conditions.
Lord Camomile
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ruffneck23
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SpookyFrank
A cheap source of teeth for aquarium gravel
One of the more vocal people in the audience was apparently the brother of some UKIP bod. You can usually spot the UKIP plants a mile off.
I actually applied to be in the audience at the one they did here a few months back, as did Mrs Frank. I think the question I submitted was something relatively innocuous by my standards, something like 'which of the major parties should I vote for if I'm opposed to privatisation?'. Neither of us got in. I didn't notice any local accents in the audience
ruffneck23
front left
One of the more vocal people in the audience was apparently the brother of some UKIP bod. You can usually spot the UKIP plants a mile off.
I actually applied to be in the audience at the one they did here a few months back, as did Mrs Frank. I think the question I submitted was something relatively innocuous by my standards, something like 'which of the major parties should I vote for if I'm opposed to privatisation?'. Neither of us got in. I didn't notice any local accents in the audience
erm the story is 2 post above yours
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