Prince Andrew, Duke of York, named in underage 'sex slave' lawsuit

[killer b]

Either way, the Royal archives are exempt from all the normal information access/release rules and have been used to bury potentially compromising stuff before - eg relating to the Duke of Windsor, so unless they actually decide to tell us, (which I don't believe for one moment) we will never know for sure.

But none of this stuff matters - everyone knows that Andrew Windsor's only real source of money is his mum, and all of her money - all of it - is ours. So we do know for sure that we paid for it, whatever means they have of burying compromising stuff, unless they release some very convincing story about where else the money's come from. Which I'm expecting to see sometime soon.

 

[Glitter]

There’s a difference between ‘consensual but underage’ and ‘trafficked’

Neither are right but one is a whole lot more wrong.

 

[friedaweed]

That room she's stood in is bigger than my mum's whole fucking house. I truly hope she sees what an utter scumfucker she raised and how her whole life's work is teetering on the brink of crashing down cos of it.

Calm down La. I was just queuing teuchter up for one of his god save the queen posts

 

[friedaweed]

Sharks are edible.

So was Bowie

 

[Yossarian]

No I think that has more to do with how much some people have "hero-invested" in the likes of Bowie. If it was Bono he'd be toast by now Shaun Ryder we might turn a blind eye because of the drugs. Same goes for Roy Harper, Elvis, Jerry Lee, Dylan. and we saw it with the fans of glitter and even Saville up until the end. Basically it bursts peoples bubbles to realise their heroes are not cool and edgy but predatory and not bound by societal norms when it comes to sex.

Yep - Bowie's reputation has been helped by the fact that there were never any legal proceedings - if he was alive and women that he'd given drugs to and had sex with when they were underage filed lawsuits, I think a lot of fans would probably be all too ready to dismiss them as "gold-digging" liars.

 

[friedaweed]

Yep - Bowie's reputation has been helped by the fact that there were never any legal proceedings - if he was alive and women that he'd given drugs to and had sex with when they were underage filed lawsuits, I think a lot of fans would probably be all too ready to dismiss them as "gold-digging" liars.

Yup which has been the modus operandi to discredit women in these situations since sex drugs and rock and roll began. Loads of my mates got me munted, none of them took advantage of me outside of that one eyebrow shaving foam incident.

 

[kenny g]

There’s a difference between ‘consensual but underage’ and ‘trafficked’

Neither are right but one is a whole lot more wrong.

I thought if you are underage you can't legally consent.

 

[Bahnhof Strasse]

I thought if you are underage you can't legally consent.

You thought wrong.

 

[Bahnhof Strasse]

Shocking how many people are unaware of what consent actually means.

 

[Sweet FA]

Quick question (and I got flamed for this, this afternoon, without a reasonable explanation).

Why did David Bowie get a pass on shagging Maddox and Starr, who he knew to be 15 at the time, whilst Sweatless gets crucified for shagging a 17 year old?

Changing times?

She was 13.

Aged 14 with Jimmy Page.

Cheesypoof told me this was OK because Maddox described it as a 'beautiful experience'.

 

[Yossarian]

You thought wrong.

It's phrased that way in the penal codes of the US states where a lot of these cases are prosecuted - "legally incapable of consent."

 

[Bahnhof Strasse]

fuck it, going to bed

 

[Raheem]

has she lost weight?
she looks about 12 million pounds lighter anyway

Another case of a hard-up single mother having to choose between feeding herself and paying for the things her children need.

 

[Weller]

loving some of the reviews on pizza express


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[bluescreen]

 

[pogofish]

But none of this stuff matters - everyone knows that Andrew Windsor's only real source of money is his mum, and all of her money - all of it - is ours. So we do know for sure that we paid for it, whatever means they have of burying compromising stuff, unless they release some very convincing story about where else the money's come from. Which I'm expecting to see sometime soon.

It doesn't matter to us but until someone can conclusively prove the source of the money, they will get a fairly easy ride and even be excused by their toadies, then business as usual, except for Andrew. This lot have plenty of skeletons rattling away in Windsor. Prince Albert Victor could well be another, and Prince George, Duke of Kent.

I'd guess it will be dismissed/stonewalled as yet another "private matter" which of course the Royal Family never publicly comment-on and instead, I'd bet that the focus will move to Giuffre and whatever she might do with the money once its been paid-out.

 

[Bahnhof Strasse]

Randy Andy, needs looking at https://commonslibrary.parliament.u... Wealth Orders allow for,and their use so far.

 

[Bahnhof Strasse]

Nice thought of course but I imagine that will just get dropped now, she was his only accuser and probably wouldn't be too interested in pursuing it. It would be a high profile investigation that would stir up at least some diplomatic flak and is not likely to go anywhere. We will probably see him in the background of royal family events (Captain Birdseye costume optional) but other than that, he will most likely be given a stipend and told to stay out of the limelight. Imagine family get togethers going to be a bit awkward from now on.

They don’t want to talk to him specifically regarding Virginia Guiffre, they want to speak to him regarding Epstein, and they still do.

Airmiles Andy will fly no further than Inverness from now on.

 

[two sheds]

Ghislaine Maxwell says she believes Epstein was murdered in prison

The convicted sex offender refused to apologise to her victims and said they should blame US authorities for ‘allowing Epstein to die’

www.independent.co.uk

But according to The Telegraph, a clause prevents the duke from repeating his claim that he does not recall meeting Ms Giuffre.

She, on the other hand, could soon be free to speak publicly under the terms of the agreement reached this weekend, the paper reports.

Oho! More to come then.

 

[Calamity1971]

S

She's still a mum. Must be a shite experience for someone who has given her life for some fucktard bollix.

She's not ya normal mum though Is she. I can't remember having to make an appointment to see mine or curtsying when she entered the room with me tea. Fuck er.

 

[Calamity1971]

Calm down La. I was just queuing teuchter up for one of his god save the queen posts

Phew.

 

[DaveCinzano]

Ghislaine Maxwell says she believes Epstein was murdered in prison

The convicted sex offender refused to apologise to her victims and said they should blame US authorities for ‘allowing Epstein to die’

www.independent.co.uk

Oho! More to come then.

With the intellectual élan one associates with the third born child of cousins-who-married, he appears to have comprehensively triangulated himself

 

[two sheds]

She's not ya normal mum though Is she. I can't remember having to make an appointment to see mine or curtsying when she entered the room with me tea. Fuck er.

That's the trouble with younger generation, no respect

 

[Calamity1971]

 

[Orang Utan]

I think we should cut his head off. That'd show him.

 

[Bahnhof Strasse]

She's not ya normal mum though Is she. I can't remember having to make an appointment to see mine or curtsying when she entered the room with me tea. Fuck er.

I would curtsy if your mum entered the room.

 

[T & P]

I ended rewatching this evening a highlights video of his BBC interview. His claims felt even more cringeworthy, outrageous and ludicrous than the first time round.

 

[RileyOBlimey]

 

[AnnO'Neemus]

She's not ya normal mum though Is she. I can't remember having to make an appointment to see mine or curtsying when she entered the room with me tea. Fuck er.

An ex-bf of mine had to make an appointment to see his parents, sort of, in that they owned/ran a small country house hotel, and so whenever he went home for a visit he'd have to call ahead and book a room.

You've heard of parents who grumble to their kids about 'you treat our house like an hotel!', well for his folks the equivalent would be you treat our hotel like your house!

 

[Raheem]

Quick question (and I got flamed for this, this afternoon, without a reasonable explanation).

Why did David Bowie get a pass on shagging Maddox and Starr, who he knew to be 15 at the time, whilst Sweatless gets crucified for shagging a 17 year old?

Changing times?

Might belong on the unpopular opinions thread but, IMO, this probably never happened. Reason being the story has been told a number of times with inconsistencies that go well beyond misremembered details to the extent that it is very clearly mostly fabrication. Right down to who exactly did and didn't have sex with Bowie.

For balance, though, there's a 1980s sexual assault allegation against him which is more credible, although he got off.

It's true, though that many people will give Bowie a pass regardless of the evidence. Because if we paid attention to all the bad behaviour of musicians we'd have problems finding stuff to listen to.

Jimi Hendrix. Threw a bottle at his girlfriend's head. Serious enough that Chas Chandler decided to stop working with him.

Bill Withers. Well-documented incident of domestic violence, in newspapers at the time. Girlfriend needed hospital treatment.

Jimmy Pursey. On the sex offenders register for forcibly French kissing a woman in the street.

Edith Piaf. Performed at Nazi work camps during WW2.

Peter Tosh. Known as "Peter Touch" because he liked to grope women in the street. Apparently without complaint from Bob Marley or the other Wailers.

Ray Davies. Beat a sound technician unconscious.

John Lennon. Well-documented abusive husband.

James Brown. Convicted wife-beater.

Morrissey. You know already.

I regularly listen to music by all of these. But the list goes on.