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brogdale
Coming to terms with late onset Anarchism
In January the Greens were on around 4% on the Poll-Of-Poll tracking and are now up to 7%, (with this YG giving them 9%); looks like some evidence of sustained drift from Starmer's Labour.
brogdale
Coming to terms with late onset Anarchism
Argonia
Happy go licky
We in the new Republic are in an abject mess due to the incredible and mind-blowing failures of the Former Regime. There is so much work to do at grassroots level to build a sane civic society. For example - millions of people can't read very well or at all and are alienated from the 21st century Internet Revolution. What can be done about this urgent problem?
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ItWillNeverWork
Messy Crimbobs, fellow humans.
Had to Google this. Apparently 1 in 5 people in England, and 1 in 4 Scots are functionally illiterate!
Argonia
Happy go licky
Had to Google this. Apparently 1 in 5 people in England, and 1 in 4 Scots are functionally illiterate!
So, so, so, so utterly sad. Oh well. Time to accelerate a genuine education system and help those marginalised and excluded and those who need extra help and support.
maomao
普費斯
And you lack basic numeracy skills if you think 16.4% is one in five. It's slightly less than one in six.Had to Google this. Apparently 1 in 5 people in England, and 1 in 4 Scots are functionally illiterate!
Argonia
Happy go licky
I was rubbish at maths at school but my mum was a private maths tutor and is excellent. I have great respect for mathematicians although my mind is literary and works that way instead. I enjoyed Hannah Fry's mathematics programmes on BBC One a while back on iPlayer but I might have an issue with her about Platonic ideals and how they relate to maths but who knows - will be an interesting discourse if we ever meet up for a green tea or a camomile tea or something in LDN.
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ItWillNeverWork
Messy Crimbobs, fellow humans.
It was a typo, ffs.
maomao
普費斯
Ok, illiterate after all then.
ItWillNeverWork
Messy Crimbobs, fellow humans.
Damn you, The Internet! 
Kevbad the Bad
Amiable Bowel Syndrome
Being functionally illiterate does not invalidate your opinions nor necessarily make you ignorant. With radio and TV news and documentaries, films and biographies, potted history etc on the telly, you could be functionally illiterate nowadays and yet know and understand more than the average person a few decades ago. Much more so the average person from the 19th century or before. It's how you handle your illiteracy or lack of numeracy that matters. If your inadequacy makes you feel bad about yourself then it will affect your life adversely in myriad ways. If it doesn't then it needn't.
Argonia
Happy go licky
Interesting but how could we expect people to keep up with our transition from the Jurassic era to the 21st century if they can't join Urban75 and read this explosion of documents and sources? Imagine having to watch the Orwellian telescreen the whole time. Imagine if you watched the 'news' channel and thought any of it was reality. Precisely how deluded would you be?
I've met a lot of people who think they're clever when etc etc
Kevbad the Bad
Amiable Bowel Syndrome
Imagine reading Urban and believing it was true.
Kevbad the Bad
Amiable Bowel Syndrome
You raise an intriguing point. Who is most likely to fall for the fascist big lie? The illiterate sceptic? Or the gullible, literate, uneducated?
brogdale
Coming to terms with late onset Anarchism
Yes; interesting to hear so much of the post Chesham+Amersham chatter focusing on the alignment of the home-owning (& aspirant) segment. Some seeing danger for the Tories in losing their aging, pensioner home-owner nimby core vote whilst trying to attract the 'replacement cohorts' with 'promises' of house building and exploring how the "progressives" can exploit that psephological conundrum.
This sort of stuff probably excites Starmer no end.
Chz
Stark Raving Sane
TBF, Labour's big majorities in 01/05 were quite reliant on a strong LD vote to siphon support away from the Tories. It's no good getting 40% of the vote when the Conservatives get even more.
belboid
Exasperated, not angry.
Sadly those figures don’t show that. Don’t forget the idiot Fox and his cobelievers would have voted ‘no’ there
brogdale
Coming to terms with late onset Anarchism
Fair point; though I suspect the timing of the sudden inflexion in the graphed numbers suggest that most are reacting negatively to Johnson's dangerous 'experiement'; I'd imagine that the 'Fox brigade' would long have been in the 'No' camp anyway?
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